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I too am done with Seiko and GS, tho on a very VERY happy note. I own 3 GS and 3 Seiko 5s ...

In any case there's a world of watches to choose from so I hope you find the right pieces for you ??
Thanks @Kele1976, that's a beautiful collection! Love the GS!

I guess Seiko has mostly issues with the divers, Japan made included.

Absolutely, there is something for every taste :). Figuring out what works best for one is just part of the fun I guess (y) .
 
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Thanks @Kele1976, that's a beautiful collection! Love the GS!

I guess Seiko has mostly issues with the divers, Japan made included.

Absolutely, there is something for every taste :). Figuring out what works best for one is just part of the fun I guess (y) .
I've got tiny wrists so Seiko divers are out of my range, and I missed out on the SKX. Used to own an Oris Aquis but I find simple 3-handers more to my taste, especially if they have 100m WR as the GS do, so sold it. Agree with you; have fun on your journey ??
 
Been through multiple SKX, a SARB and multiple GS - I just stop myself from buying more Seikos.
Maybe just lucky but have not had any issues. Watches have come from Japan, Singapore, US and India - so not all JDM if that makes any difference to quality.
Tough luck for you that you had multiple bad experiences with a very popular brand.
Good luck with the Ball watches.
 
Interesting read, thank you for sharing. Just when I thought my Seiko journey ended when I bought and sold a SKX009J a couple months back, I was sucked right back in. And this second wave is definitely worse than the first. Relative to some other people I would consider myself moderately lucky, QC-wise, so perhaps I should quit while I'm ahead.
 
The only Seikos that have stayed in my collection are vintage Grand Seikos and King Seikos from the late 60s / early 70s. Modern Seiko is a shell of its former self, particularly over the last 5 years where they've focused on marketing rather than watchmaking. I've owned two (SKX013 and SARB033) and neither stayed in my collection for long. Terrible QC and accuracy out of their cheaper watches, and modern Grand Seiko is, IMO, overpriced (cue the Seiko fanbois jumping in).

With that being said, you should definitely check out vintage Seiko if you haven't done so already. So many beautiful designs and impeccable, hand-crafted watchmaking, and they can be had for cheap if you know what you're looking for on Yahoo JP.
 
Sorry to hear its been a disappointing experience - mine is the opposite
Bought my first Seiko 5 automatic (grey dial) in 1986 - and then bought another just like it (blue dial) so I could mix it up
When all my mates clubbed together to buy me a watch when I went to train for the priesthood in 1991 I bought a Seiko chrono (dancing hands) & an Omega Speedy ;)
I have picked up quite a few on the way - vintage 1960's, 1980's digi quartz, Tunas, Arnies, Turtles, Samurais, Flightmasters, SLAs, SBDX's - still got em
Any of them perfect? Nope - but then nor really have the other few dozen Swiss watches I have owned/own been
I dont expect perfection from anything human made or machine made

In the end you pay ur money n take ur choice - I'm happy with mine -

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Bought all my Seikos in-store. Any issue I missed in-store, I'm not bothered by.

In approximate order of purchase history:

SNE031: saw misalignment between day and date right away, but bought it because I wanted the look.

SNE165: this one actually shows perfect alignment between seconds hand and minute markers. Guess I got lucky.

Both Solars now sit near a window mostly.

SRH015, SUN025: no quality issues as far as I could tell. Lugs to endlink fit not consistent, but acceptable at this price range?

SRPA83: day and date not always lined up, I'm okay with it. Diving bezel has a bit of back-play, which is okay, cause I could get the alignment just right. 😂 Buckle bit into my wrist at first, but now that the silicon strap stretched a bit, feels okay.

SBGR307: maybe tiny bit of imperfection on dial and on movement under 10x loupe, but not bothered.

SRG005: has minor dial issue that I didn't notice in-store, not bothered by it.

Love my affordable self-bought Seikos. Could see what others talk about in terms of alignment or quality issues. Acceptable to me. I'm almost always wearing a Seiko. Think I'm a fan for life. No reason to buy more, but if I were to, would look at Seikos again.
 
Gave my SKX007 to my dad. Only Seiko I still have that's running is my grandfather's old ana-digi - same as Simon's but gold case w/ gold dial.

Kept the Orient Kamasu as the mechanical beater, although my dad might get that one as well as an upgrade to the SKX and the Blue Ray I gave him a few years ago (mineral crystal scratched).

That'd let me bring in a Baltic or a Lip or something else a bit more off the beaten track. I'll +1 the Citizen comments, as well. Never disappointed with them in the few hundred buck range. Hard to beat.
 
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About Citizen, I adjusted "fall back" time this morning for end of daylight saving time, and noticed for Calibre 8700 that the hour hand does not line up with hour marker when the minute hand is at 12 o'clock (off by half a minute mark's worth), apparently at some hour markers' positions, but not at some others'. Oh well. The watch's hands were also acting in funny ways when I was trying to select different modes (I'm guessing that's happening because the watch is older).

Same thing happened with another Citizen watch (a hand-me-down) that I had. The mode selections were not engaging properly, and I ended up leaving that watch out on the lawn for someone to take.

If one wants perfection, I suspect few affordable brands survive scrutiny because no affordable brand makes watches that are "perfect" in all ways all the time?
 
I've only owned a Seiko cocktail time, but whilst everyone else was raving about it, I was left severely underwhelmed: dreadful quality, plasticky leather bracelet, thick case, and a dial that didn't really 'pop' for me. I traded it, and I haven't really seen a Seiko that appealed ever since.
 
I think I'm reaching the point where I want to move on from Seiko as well. Personally, for me the sweet spot for price/value/unique & interesting designs is the Turtle / Samurai / Monster / Sarb033. I checked out several of their watches over the $500 price point and most of what I've that seen in person has been disappointing. Beyond that the price jumps up but QC is the same, and the designs are more generic and bland.

There is a lot that I like about Seiko and I have a moderate collection, but buying Seiko products is almost always a frustrating experience. I order online and often have to exchange a watch one or more times just to get a decent copy. They made so many of their designs available only in huge sizes that an entire modding industry popped up based around the more moderately sized SKX case. I too got tired of waiting for them to release more decently sized watches so I often buy OEM dials & hands to put together my own watches. But their QC is so incredibly sh!tty that roughly 1/3 of their NEW SEALED hand sets will contain a scratched hand. Dials often have flaws as well. I also don't know of any company selling automatic watches & movements that run 15-30 secs off. I would've given up on them early on if I didn't decide to mod and correct a lot of the QC issues myself.
 
A few years ago, maybe 2013-2014, I listened to some fanboys here or another site about Seiko. I ordered a couple and they were returned within a couple days. Mostly due to excruciating inaccuracy. Now, I truly love my old early 80's Seiko Sports 100 moonphase chrono which has an incredible quartz movement and a high level of finishing and is still my most accurate watch (outside of an MB6 G-Shock but that's not a fair comparison). But there's nothing Seiko makes, including their high priced GS watches, that interest me in the least.
 
I started with Baby MM200, the Twilight Blue SPB097 and have since gotten i guess 15 different Seikos. Now cutting down, just sold my Ninja Sumo and eventually getting rid of all the cheaper ones. But still i am keeping blue MM300 SLA023, the 1968 re-issue SLA025 and my GS SBGH201. I am quite happy with the quality and bang-fot-buck of those three.

Next i will start experimenting with Swiss watches. I did get an Oris Big Crown Pointer Date, green dial, as kind of a “better Alpinist”, and i am looking into purchasing the Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch.
 
Sad story OP. I have difficulties believing, as my Seiko experience is nothing like that. Had few and still have 3 and a GS. All have been top notch wrt to the quality and reliability. Some where more some less beauties, but all have been perfect wrt the production quality.
 
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