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I enjoyed reading your review until I got to this passage then lost both enthusiasm and interest.
I suppose it's obligatory to rag on Seiko for nigh imperceptible deviations from some imagined context-free standard of perfection. But after a while, it just gets tiresome.

In this context, I don't blame the original poster for banging on Seiko for the chapter ring issue. If this was a $200 watch I might shake my head and mutter here it goes again with the chapter ring complaining. However this Astron is not cheap. I normally don't bother worrying about the chapter ring on my Seiko watches being a little out of alignment but on my Astron 8X, the time zones did not line up with the chapter ring (it is a 2 piece chapter ring) and though it was only a bit off alignment wise i will admit that I sent Astron back to the out of state AD that i bought it from with instructions to have Seiko fix the damn thing. I spent over $2200 when all was said and done for it and I will be damned if I am going to put up with chapter ring imperfection.

It is the first and only watch I have sent back for a chapter ring issue and I would not have bothered if it was a $350 Seiko Turtle. But the Astron is different. it is made in the same factory as the Grand Seiko 9F and Spring Drive watch. This is one of Seiko's prestigious factories so this watch better not have any QC issues. (and yes if it was a Seiko LX or a Grand Seiko with a chapter ring, it would also be going back to have Seiko fix their issue)
 
Its the 5x53 Dual Time Ti model. There is an AUTO setting next to the the manual DST/ST indicator it was my assumption that this can be triangulated using software, hardware, location data.

Maybe this is not the case?
You are correct. The watch has software to both detect the area you are in and apply the DST to it if it has it. The watch is programmed to change at a specific day of the week rather then a date. In the USA that is DST starts 2nd Sun of March and ends 1st Sun of Nov. Now if the USA decides to change the day of the week that it starts and ends then this will be rendered useless and it will have to be manually changed as unlike my Seiko GPS clock where I can go into the settings and change the DST on and off days, this watch is hard programmed(or at the least the owner cannot do it). That seems to be one of the selling points of the 5X movement over the older 7X and 8X movements
 
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In this context, I don't blame the original poster for banging on Seiko for the chapter ring issue. If this was a $200 watch I might shake my head and mutter here it goes again with the chapter ring complaining. However this Astron is not cheap. I normally don't bother worrying about the chapter ring on my Seiko watches being a little out of alignment but on my Astron 8X, the time zones did not line up with the chapter ring (it is a 2 piece chapter ring) and though it was only a bit off alignment wise i will admit that I sent Astron back to the out of state AD that i bought it from with instructions to have Seiko fix the damn thing. I spent over $2200 when all was said and done for it and I will be damned if I am going to put up with chapter ring imperfection.

It is the first and only watch I have sent back for a chapter ring issue and I would not have bothered if it was a $350 Seiko Turtle. But the Astron is different. it is made in the same factory as the Grand Seiko 9F and Spring Drive watch. This is one of Seiko's prestigious factories so this watch better not have any QC issues. (and yes if it was a Seiko LX or a Grand Seiko with a chapter ring, it would also be going back to have Seiko fix their issue)
Yep, all of this. I’ve had $130 Citizen divers where everything lines up perfectly, so there’s really no excuse that Seiko can’t do it on a piece with a $1600 MSRP.
 
I enjoyed the read thanks and like others was interested in the less busy Astron...but I'll pass.

Even with a cutaway bezel (where the date window interacts) could they get alignment wrong ? Looking very close, on another site, the bezel appears to interact with all the batons ???
 
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I enjoyed the read thanks and like others was interested in the less busy Astron...but I'll pass.

Even with a cutaway bezel (where the date window interacts) could they get alignment wrong ? Looking very close, on another site, the bezel appears to interact with all the batons ???
The chapter ring, not the bezel. But yeah, every marker sits in a notch on the chapter ring. The printed on hash mark in the chapter ring doesn't 100% line up with some of the markers. Again, it's very very subtly off. But it is off. I'm not hating, I like the watch, I'm just being honest and telling what I see.
 
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The ceramic bezel, size, blue color and overall quality are a big draws for me. My biggest hesitation is price. As an Oceanus S100 owner, it seems in my personal calculus I would be paying +$800 for the ceramic blue. Hmmm....
I've also had an Oceanus S100, so I can make some comparisons. The Astron is indeed a higher quality feeling watch than the S100, it has a more jewelry like feel than the S100. It's more sparkly for lack of a better term haha. The dial has more depth, the hands have some depth (the hands on the S100 look good straight on but they're so thin and flat and that painted on line down the middle always bothered me a bit). I didn't really dig the blue indices on the S100. The clasp is definitely better on the Astron.

But is it worth an extra $800? Arguably no. But any watch costing more than $100 is an emotional purchase not a rational one, so....do what you want haha.
 
I've also had an Oceanus S100, so I can make some comparisons. The Astron is indeed a higher quality feeling watch than the S100, it has a more jewelry like feel than the S100. It's more sparkly for lack of a better term haha. The dial has more depth, the hands have some depth (the hands on the S100 look good straight on but they're so thin and flat and that painted on line down the middle always bothered me a bit). I didn't really dig the blue indices on the S100. The clasp is definitely better on the Astron.

But is it worth an extra $800? Arguably no. But any watch costing more than $100 is an emotional purchase not a rational one, so....do what you want haha.
Again, thank you for hands on review! And pics 😀

Yes price is so subjective, this is still in my cart and Im a little closer to hitting that buy button.
 
Again, thank you for hands on review! And pics 😀

Yes price is so subjective, this is still in my cart and Im a little closer to hitting that buy button.
If I were you, I'd wait for Seiko to release the Ti Version (or limited editions) of the SSJ Date-only Astron if the 5x53 dual time versions are a bit rich for you. I much prefer the aesthetics of the Ti Astrons over the SS Astrons.

I'd consider them to be more jewelry in feel than watch. They sparkle like crazy in the sun. I've been wearing mine straight for the last month and a half and it disappears on the wrist due to the weight loss of Ti. They don't disappear when you look at them though.
 
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If I were you, I'd wait for Seiko to release the Ti Version (or limited editions) of the SSJ Date-only Astron if the 5x53 dual time versions are a bit rich for you. I much prefer the aesthetics of the Ti Astrons over the SS Astrons.

I'd consider them to be more jewelry in feel than watch. They sparkle like crazy in the sun. I've been wearing mine straight for the last month and a half and it disappears on the wrist due to the weight loss of Ti. They don't disappear when you look at them though.
They have a ti version, SSJ007 or SBXD007, that address some of my complaints (bigger pushers, more lume) but a very different design, more tool-watch like look IMO :: Seiko Astron Global Line Sport Titanium SBXD007 | Sakurawatches.com

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And the all blacked out version :: Seiko Astron Global Line Sport Titanium SBXD009 | Sakurawatches.com

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They have a ti version, SSJ007 or SBXD007, that address some of my complaints (bigger pushers, more lume) but a very different design, more tool-watch like look IMO :: Seiko Astron Global Line Sport Titanium SBXD007 | Sakurawatches.com
And the all blacked out version :: Seiko Astron Global Line Sport Titanium SBXD009 | Sakurawatches.com
So these are definitely interesting. Keen to see someone review these as well. At list, 2100€ I believe, and what we'll get in EU (considering import gets taxed), it's a difficult value proposition. At $1300 like yours... very interesting!
 
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Great write up! Maybe a lume shot when you get a chance?
Here's the best I could get. It's blue. Like I said, not much of it there, but it does last. I woke up just before 5am this morning and was able to read the time while half asleep.

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One question, how much total adjustment range does the quick adjust clasp afford you?
Haven't measured it, but looking at it, I'd say it's around 1/4in or so (~7mm). For my 6.75" wrist it's enough to account for any swelling/shrinking I've had. Larger wrists probably shrink/swell more than smaller wrists I imagine...but any adjustment is better than no adjustment.
 
Thanks for the lume shot. Not sure why they didn't do all of the indicies (like on the titanium version), can't imagine they saved much money. However, just 3,6,9,12 is enough to make it functional. Hands are all nicely lumed.

As you also mentioned above, I wish they had real pushers (again, like the titanium version). Would be easier to use when on the run. I have Citizen Attesa that has recessed pushers as well. I use a toothpick on that watch as opposed to a pin or paperclip, just to avoid accidentally scratching the watch.

The blue SSJ003 is on my definately/maybe list.
 
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Thanks for the lume shot. Not sure why they didn't do all of the indicies (like on the titanium version), can't imagine they saved much money. However, just 3,6,9,12 is enough to make it functional. Hands are all nicely lumed.

As you also mentioned above, I wish they had real pushers (again, like the titanium version). Would be easier to use when on the run. I have Citizen Attesa that has recessed pushers as well. I use a toothpick on that watch as opposed to a pin or paperclip, just to avoid accidentally scratching the watch.
I would say the lume is just barely useful. I wish they did it like the Oceanus T200 and do the backside of every marker, and not just a little dot but the whole backside, especially since they did paint the backside of each marker anyways, just paint it with lume!

The buttons are definitely a compromise. Nice thing about them being recessed is they're practically not there, you can't see them at all while wearing the watch without turning your arm at a weird angle. But it does make it not a great travel watch.
 
Curious about the blue bezel. Does it look shiny-plastic-like in bright light? Seems to be a straight on blue in bright light and then shift to darker blue depending on light/angle. I'd be more interested in the blue if it were deeper/darker; looks a bit bright for me. Anyone have the black 39mm yet? I've seen the difference in Rolex explorer between their green aluminum bezel and their green ceramic. The ceramic looks dull in comparison, but it's far more durable if you don't shatter it with a bad drop.

Regarding time zone change, sounds like it's faster to manually change? and then at some point if you're outside enough it'll do the accurate auto-sync thing.

All in all, minus the stingy application of lume, this is the kind of watch I've wanted for some time: solar, sapphire, dress/sport, decent bracelet, and uber-accurate GPS time sync in a small-wrist platform.
 
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Curious about the blue bezel. Does it look shiny-plastic-like in bright light? Seems to be a straight on blue in bright light and then shift to darker blue depending on light/angle. I'd be more interested in the blue if it were deeper/darker; looks a bit bright for me.
I wouldn't say it looks plasticy, but it is shiny and a smooth polished finish, it's like a blue mirror. And the blue is fairly bright, I'd call it a royal blue I guess.
 
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