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Here's a couple of backset/backwind examples.

The 1970s manual wind Voumard 2000 is backwound and backset. The 1967 Accutron 214 has no need of winding, and uses a hinged key/crown for backsetting.

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The image below shows the Accutron crown flipped up for setting, and the screw battery hatch open.

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Here's the back of the Voumard showing the crown arrangement.

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The Voumard cal. 2500 is a curious looking movement. The 17 jewel in-house movement shown on the right below has a flying barrel (attached only from the baseplate). On the left you can see the caseback with the backwinding and setting mechanism for the crown. In the normal position the crown winds the movement. Pulled-out it sets the hands.

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Back winding/setting was sometimes employed on small vintage mechanical ladies-size watch movements . This could allow a cleaner design and marginally smaller watch.

In the selection of vintage ladies movements below you can see in the center a backset Doxa movement, (note the stem sticking up out of the ratchet wheel) .

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(Movements from the collection of Rob B).

Here's that same movement in an older pic illustrating the small size.

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Back winding/setting was sometimes employed on small vintage mechanical ladies-size watch movements . This could allow a cleaner design and marginally smaller watch.

In the selection of vintage ladies movements below you can see in the center a backset Doxa movement, (note the stem sticking up out of the ratchet wheel) .

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(Movements from the collection of Rob B).

Here's that same movement in an older pic illustrating the small size.

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It's a dang shame that this sort of ingenuity and cool is going the way of the Dodo, just bcz people prefer their phones and smart watches.

Think of all the watches - even if only women's -- that could still be made with such movements, but with improved versions of them.

Sigh.
 

My only watch with recessed crown, bought in a raffle of Italian watch forum. I like to wear the watch, but I hate the recessed crown every time I adjust time and date and try to give the crown a few initial turns! :mad:
Will never buy intentionally again such type of constructions.
 
Don't got any.


Sorta reminds me of an early-morning piss on a winter camping trip.
Thanks for this. On my own, I would never have made the connection between the thread topic and shrinkage in the Seinfeldian sense, but you've closed the loop for me. :)
 
Any time. :whistle:
PS: I've never had a problem with big crowns in the 3 o'clock position or any old position. This is what happens to be on my wrist today. Love that onion! 😁

Apologies, don't mean to hijack. Carry on with this eye-opening thread!
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PS: I've never had a problem with big crowns in the 3 o'clock position or any old position. This is what happens to be on my wrist today. Love that onion! 😁

Apologies, don't mean to hijack. Carry on with this eye-opening thread!
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Totally agree. An onion crown is beautiful and easy to use. Have one on my Stowa Flieger.
 
PS: I've never had a problem with big crowns in the 3 o'clock position or any old position. This is what happens to be on my wrist today. Love that onion! 😁
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I've got a Breitling Galactic 44 with an onion crown. Last time I took it on a dive trip, the wetsuit pushed it into the back of my hand and drilled a hole in it. :(
 
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