Explorer 14270 N Series (1991) from private seller. Your thoughts ?

dredzz · Mar 12, 2023

Hello guys, I have the opportunity to buy a full set 14270 N Series from a private seller. This is my first Rolex, I have done a lot of research, including the complete article made by Hodinkee on the 14270, and to me the watch seems genuine. The seller is too far from my location to be met in real life, so I need your advices please. He told me that he didn't buy the watch new, which bothers me a bit, but he seems to be a connoisseur (he talks about frozen dial, drilled lug holes, tritium dial, etc.). He thinks all pieces are original, including bracelet and clasp.

He also told me that the watch has been overhauled in September 2019 by a watchmaker previously working for Rolex. I asked him if he has any paper about that, like a listing of the operations done by this guy on the watch. I'm waiting for his answer. I already have a lot of photos that I'll share with you, and I'm waiting for more in the coming days. I will also post them here.

Thank you very much for your help.

135922 · Mar 12, 2023

What’s your question?

“Serviced by a guy who used to work for Rolex” means to me it is not serviced.

Do you know the seller? Sounds risky if it’s not a known seller as you have no idea what you’ll actually receive. Always buy the seller. Lots of photos mean nothing… even if he is a “connoisseur”. 😵‍💫

dredzz · Mar 12, 2023

Mickey® said:
What’s your question?

“Serviced by a guy who used to work for Rolex” means to me it is not serviced.

Do you know the seller? Sounds risky if it’s not a known seller as you have no idea what you’ll actually receive. Always buy the seller. Lots of photos mean nothing… even if he is a “connoisseur”. 😵‍💫

My question, or my request is to help me determine if this watch is authentic or not. And no, I don't know the seller at all.

Nokie · Mar 12, 2023

Mickey® said:
Do you know the seller? Sounds risky if it’s not a known seller as you have no idea what you’ll actually receive. Always buy the seller. Lots of photos mean nothing… even if he is a “connoisseur”. 😵‍💫

If you don't know the seller, then proceed with LOTS of caution.......

heineken4u · Mar 12, 2023

dredzz said:
My question, or my request is to help me determine if this watch is authentic or not. And no, I don't know the seller at all.

I would definitely not do it then. I'm assuming you're attracted to the price offered?

Source one from a trusted seller here on WUS.

dredzz · Mar 12, 2023

heineken4u said:
I would definitely not do it then. I'm assuming you're attracted to the price offered?

Source one from a trusted seller here on WUS.

The price is $8k8, so it's not cheap. I'm not attracted by the price, but by the watch. To me it looks genuine but the guy being a random internet guy makes me hesitating.

dredzz · Mar 12, 2023

How can I find a trusted seller on WuS ? Thanks

chillwill120 · Mar 12, 2023

dredzz said:
The price is $8k8, so it's not cheap. I'm not attracted by the price, but by the watch. To me it looks genuine but the guy being a random internet guy makes me hesitating.

I don't know why you're even considering this at that price.

dredzz · Mar 12, 2023

chillwill120 said:
I don't know why you're even considering this at that price.

That's also why I need advices

135922 · Mar 12, 2023

dredzz said:
The price is $8k8, so it's not cheap. I'm not attracted by the price, but by the watch. To me it looks genuine but the guy being a random internet guy makes me hesitating.

You’ve answered your own question I think…”but the guy being a random internet guy”

Not saying I’m the most knowledgeable, but in 25 years, I don’t think I’ve ever had to ask another’s opinion on if I should buy a watch… it should be obvious, if not walk away.

chillwill120 · Mar 12, 2023

dredzz said:
That's also why I need advices

Google, ebay, chrono24...do some research on this model and the prices they go for. I found this listing in about 5 seconds from a seller with a long history on this site and it cost $2k less than the overpriced one you're looking at.

Fs: Rolex Explorer ref 114270 Full Set 2005

For sale is the classic Rolex Explorer 1 36mm. The watch is in great condition and comes as a full set. No service history but it is in working order. No trades at this time Please respect your time and mine and only inquire if you’re ready to purchase. If this listing doesn’t say sold then...

www.watchuseek.com

135922 · Mar 12, 2023

chillwill120 said:
Google, ebay, chrono24...do some research on this model and the prices they go for. I found this listing in about 5 seconds from a seller with a long history on this site and it cost $2k less than the overpriced one you're looking at.

Fs: Rolex Explorer ref 114270 Full Set 2005

For sale is the classic Rolex Explorer 1 36mm. The watch is in great condition and comes as a full set. No service history but it is in working order. No trades at this time Please respect your time and mine and only inquire if you’re ready to purchase. If this listing doesn’t say sold then...

www.watchuseek.com

Damn, I wish I could wear 36 mm… I’d buy that… with a little negotiation, of course. 🥱

chillwill120 · Mar 12, 2023

Mickey® said:
Damn, I wish I could wear 36 mm… I’d buy that… with a little negotiation, of course. 🥱

They are great watches but just a tad too small on my 7 inch wrist for my liking.

135922 · Mar 12, 2023

chillwill120 said:
They are great watches but just a tad too small on my 7 inch wrist for my liking.

Yep I have 7 1/4” wrist. 😑 - just doesn’t look proportionate.

AEC · Mar 12, 2023

I wouldn't want a dial in that condition, and I think that's the wrong clasp for that model (someone correct me if I'm wrong on that point). Also, I think a really nice 14270 is trading for more like USD $5k-6k. Is the $8k you mention in USD or some other currency?

Phlyers13 · Mar 12, 2023

Hard pass

dredzz · Mar 12, 2023

Thank you guys, I'll give up on this one.

chillwill120 said:
Google, ebay, chrono24...do some research on this model and the prices they go for. I found this listing in about 5 seconds from a seller with a long history on this site and it cost $2k less than the overpriced one you're looking at.

Fs: Rolex Explorer ref 114270 Full Set 2005

For sale is the classic Rolex Explorer 1 36mm. The watch is in great condition and comes as a full set. No service history but it is in working order. No trades at this time Please respect your time and mine and only inquire if you’re ready to purchase. If this listing doesn’t say sold then...

www.watchuseek.com

Thanks but it's not the same watch. It's a 114270, no tritium dial etc.

AEC said:
I wouldn't want a dial in that condition, and I think that's the wrong clasp for that model (someone correct me if I'm wrong on that point). Also, I think a really nice 14270 is trading for more like USD $5k-6k. Is the $8k you mention in USD or some other currency?

It's 8300€, so approx $8800

McChicken · Mar 12, 2023

Check out here or the rolexforum.
They go for a lot less than that.
And as posted above, I wouldn't want that dial.

dredzz · Mar 12, 2023

McChicken said:
Check out here or the rolexforum.
They go for a lot less than that.
And as posted above, I wouldn't want that dial.

Thank you, I'll give it a look

135922 · Mar 12, 2023

dredzz said:
Thank you guys, I'll give up on this one.

Thanks but it's not the same watch. It's a 114270, no tritium dial etc.

It's 8300€, so approx $8800

So it's less AND better? 🤪 😉 🤣

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