WatchUSeek Watch Forums banner
Cancel
Create thread New Forums

Difference between Citizen Promaster PMD56-2952 and Citizen Promaster AT6085-50E

Tags
pmd56 pmd56-2982 promaster
Jump to Latest
1 - 18 of 18 Posts

jeffjeffrey242

· Registered
Joined
·
3 Posts
Discussion starter · #1 ·
Hi,

I am looking to purchase a Citizen Promaster PMD56-2952 due to its excellent features (and beautiful dial) and I stumbled across the Citizen Promaster AT6085-50E which looks remarkably similar.

Perhaps I am a bit tired but I cannot notice any key differences between the two watches except for maybe a slight difference in the colour.

Please can anyone give any insight into the difference + let me know if there is a more recent version of the Citizen Promaster PMD56-2952? (Just curious)

Thanks for reading.
 
#4 · (Edited)
jeffjeffrey242 said:
Hi,

I am looking to purchase a Citizen Promaster PMD56-2952 due to its excellent features (and beautiful dial) and I stumbled across the Citizen Promaster AT6085-50E which looks remarkably similar.

Perhaps I am a bit tired but I cannot notice any key differences between the two watches except for maybe a slight difference in the colour.

Please can anyone give any insight into the difference + let me know if there is a more recent version of the Citizen Promaster PMD56-2952? (Just curious)

Thanks for reading.
Click to expand...
Hello and welcome to WUS!!! Ziptie is absolutely right, these are identical watches except for case and dial colors. For years, Citizen PMD56 was available only in two versions with black or green dials, and a few years ago Citizen added two new models AT6085-50E black dial with DLC case and bracelet, AT6080-53L with blue dial, Super Titanium case and bracelet. Great watches, very durable, accurate, and light. The only minor issue is that you’ll have to use an app to use the atomic time sync, because they only accept radio signal in Japanese frequency. Visit Citizen sub-forum, you’ll find lot of information there!!! Best of luck!!!
 
#8 ·
Hi, bumping an old thread. Looks like the newer versions (AT6085-50E and AT6080-53L) are cased in Thailand, while the legacy models (PMD56...) are still entirely made in Japan. Guess they added some variety while setting up the new manufacturing lines. Read one comment from someone that had both stated they "thought" the newer versions were of lesser quality, but the comment sounded anecdotal. Anyone that has held both at the same time observe anything along those lines?
 
#9 ·
BusyBee said:
Hi, bumping an old thread. Looks like the newer versions (AT6085-50E and AT6080-53L) are cased in Thailand, while the legacy models (PMD56...) are still entirely made in Japan. Guess they added some variety while setting up the new manufacturing lines. Read one comment from someone that had both stated they "thought" the newer versions were of lesser quality, but the comment sounded anecdotal. Anyone that has held both at the same time observe anything along those lines?
Click to expand...
They are all made in Thailand these days, they just didn't bother changing the markings on the old ones. See:
Decoding the mordern Citizen Serial number for Date of Manuafacture? | Page 2 | WatchUSeek Watch Forums

As for quality, from what I've seen the watches from Thailand are just as good as the older watches from Japan.
 
#14 ·
BusyBee said:
Thanks for the inside scoop CitizenPromaster. Guess the movements are still from Japan though. That's useful date logic as well. Great.
Click to expand...
The movements still are made in Japan, and some people suggest that if X percentage of the watch is "made in Japan" then the whole watch can be marketed as made in Japan (same sort of thing as swiss made), however, I think this rule would apply to both the old and new versions after the move to Thailand since they are basically the same models, so I think Citizen is being a little bit dishonest. They also still list another Promasters as Made in Japan when it is also made in Thailand, and I don't think the movement is worth more than the other parts combined, but I might be wrong since I don't know all the rules exactly. Maybe they count R&D for all we know.
 
#15 ·
Happy Holidays, did anyone ever open one of these up? I've seen two mentions that it was a screw down back cover. However, looking at pics, there appears to be a pry-point location. I wouldn't see how it would be unscrewed anyhow as there is nothing to catch on (for either version). Can anyone confirm?
 
#16 ·
BusyBee said:
Happy Holidays, did anyone ever open one of these up? I've seen two mentions that it was a screw down back cover. However, looking at pics, there appears to be a pry-point location. I wouldn't see how it would be unscrewed anyhow as there is nothing to catch on (for either version). Can anyone confirm?
Click to expand...
Sorry for posting on this old one, but yes in case anyone is interested they are not screw down but pry open case backs. Does not appear to alter their durability as I have bought and sold dozens of these models over the years and keep two in my personal collection.
 
#17 ·
Otherguy said:
Sorry for posting on this old one, but yes in case anyone is interested they are not screw down but pry open case backs. Does not appear to alter their durability as I have bought and sold dozens of these models over the years and keep two in my personal collection.
Click to expand...
Thanks for confirming. They do state on the back "Don't open - Service center repair only", so might take some special handling or jigs to insure the 20 bar water resistance is maintained. I won't be attempting to use my pry blade anytime soon.

I was curious what they looked like inside and have not found any photos as I guess it is quite rare when anyone would need to open one. From what I can see, it certainly looks to be a bit higher quality than other similar Citizen models.
 
#18 ·
BusyBee said:
Thanks for confirming. They do state on the back "Don't open - Service center repair only", so might take some special handling or jigs to insure the 20 bar water resistance is maintained. I won't be attempting to use my pry blade anytime soon.

I was curious what they looked like inside and have not found any photos as I guess it is quite rare when anyone would need to open one. From what I can see, it certainly looks to be a bit higher quality than other similar Citizen models.
Click to expand...
I've never had to open one. They haven't been out AFAIK for very long and these solar batteries can last 10 to 20 or even more years sometimes. I heard from people who changed the batteries in earlier versions of this model from the 00's that it is about the same as changing any other quartz battery but not sure about it having issues with retaining water resistance. Usually when I change a battery if I don't have a replacement gasket on hand I will dip the original gasket in silicone oil before closing it all back up. Keeps it supple.
 
1 - 18 of 18 Posts
About this Discussion
17 Replies
8 Participants
Last post:
Otherguy
WatchUSeek Watch Forums
posts
24M
members
618K
Since
2005
A forum community dedicated to watch owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about watch collections, displays, watch winders, accessories, classifieds, and more! We welcome all manufacturers including Casio G-Shock, OMEGA, Rolex, Breitling, Rolex and Tudor, Seiko, Grand Seiko and others.
Full Forum Listing
Explore Our Forums
Public Forum Watches - Private Sellers and Sponsors Affordable watches Dive watches Casio G-Shock