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      An update on finding good, solid 20mm spring bars with 1.2 mm pinions for BN0150 & Co.:


      So like many I found out that "harvesting" the original spring bars from the black diver band and using them for wearing NATOs or elastic bands etc. works, but they do make a small clicking noise from time to time, as they move around a bit. I looked around for options, and the best (and actually cheapest, even after having them sent from the US to Germany) I found are these:


      (no connection/affiliation with the seller, just a happy costumer).

      From the description:
      "Item up for sale is a new released custom manufactured with improved design 2.5mm diameter stainless steel FATBAR spring bar with SPHERICAL 1.2mm tip ends available in 3 sizes: 19mm, 20mm & 22mm for your regular size vintage or modern Seiko or Citizen diver watches. We also carry the original Double Shoulder style in our eBay store (eBay item number:381604144143)

      These top quality FAT spring bars also features new REINFORCED Double Flange design (please refer to picture 2), unlike those thin flange spring bars, which we often find it damaged by forced removal or improper use of remove tool. This is the best heavy duty FAT spring bars for your Japanese diver watch or any watch takes 1.2mm ends."

      They are rock solid and for practical purposes silent. I can make one of them make a noise when pressing on it, but in normal use: perfect. (The original Citizen spring bars would work fine with my elastic strap as well, but every time I took of the Luff Strap and drew it over the wrist (unbuckled) it would click, which annoyed me.)

      They are also available with 2.0 mm diameter and 1.2 mm tip: 20mm 22mm Heavy Duty 2.0mm Spring Bar w/ 1.2mm Tip Ends for Seiko Citizen Diver | eBay
       
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      An update on finding good, solid 20mm spring bars with 1.2 mm pinions for BN0150 & Co.:

      So like many I found out that "harvesting" the original spring bars from the black diver band and using them for wearing NATOs or elastic bands etc. works, but they do make a small clicking noise from time to time, as they move around a bit. I looked around for options
      ...

      (no connection/affiliation with the seller, just a happy costumer).

      From the description:
      "Item up for sale is a new released custom manufactured with improved design 2.5mm diameter stainless steel FATBAR spring bar with SPHERICAL 1.2mm tip ends available in 3 sizes: 19mm, 20mm & 22mm for your regular size vintage or modern Seiko or Citizen diver watches. We also carry the original Double Shoulder style in our eBay store (eBay item number:381604144143)
      ...
      They are also available with 2.0 mm diameter and 1.2 mm tip: 20mm 22mm Heavy Duty 2.0mm Spring Bar w/ 1.2mm Tip Ends for Seiko Citizen Diver | eBay
      ... and I had been under the impression that springbars on all (Citizen) dive watches had the same diameters for the main body (2 mm) & the tips (1.2 mm)!
       
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      I have a few of those Barton Elite straps, they’re excellent and very comfortable, the spring bars are decent but the tips are too narrow for the Willard, which I assume is why you’re looking to get some other ones. However, those Seiko fat bars are too wide for the Elite strap. I got some ‘skinny fat bars’ with the correct 1.1mm tips, they’re better but still a tight fit. You can get them in with a bit of persuasion but getting them back out might be another matter. Hope this helps!

      Good call,

      Would 1.2 tip work?
      Can't seem to find 20 mm, 2.0, with 1.1 tip that ship to US.

       
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      WatchGecko sells some really nice 'skinny fat' spring bars that will let you use any strap you want. They're slightly fatter in the middle than normal (2mm) so they'll still fit in most straps (might be a bit tight tho), but have the oversized fat ends like the Seiko bars, so they fit nice and tight in the lugs of watches designed around the 2.5mm Seiko bars.


      They'll fit in Barton's Elite Silicone straps, which I'm a big fan of, if you like thinner and lighter straps.
      I'd asked this question somewhat recently as well, somebody pointed me to fleabay, specifically this seller:

      I picked these slim-fat bars and they work great.

      That said, another thumbs up for Uncle Seiko straps. I have one of his tropic straps. It'll fit Seiko fat bars, plus it comes with thicker spring bars that have thinner ends. That way you can use the strap on other watches, not just Seikos.
       
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      Try this seller

      Tried those, too big. The tips won't fit in the pin holes in the watch. I spent a lot of time searching, and the ones I bought from Watch Gecko were the only thing I could find that fit.
       
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      Definitely what he's looking for. Might be able to find a 1.2mm tip option, which is optimal.
      I have bought from that seller and I am happy with the product he sells.
      Yep, the same seller has a 1.2mm tip option - and the 2.0mm diameter is a nice fit for Isofranes as they don't fall out - but they're currently sold out of 22mm:


      I too have purchased many times from this seller and always been satisfied.
       
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      So do 1.2mm tipped spring bars work or not work with the watch? Have you tried the spring bars from this seller?



      I have used their shoulderless 1.2mm spring bars for a lot of my Seiko divers. However those types will not work on non drilled lugs
       
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      So do 1.2mm tipped spring bars work or not work with the watch? Have you tried the spring bars from this seller?



      I have used their shoulderless 1.2mm spring bars for a lot of my Seiko divers. However those types will not work on non drilled lugs
      I have used several types from that seller… and as I said it appears that there must be the combo of a shorter bar and 1.2mm tips as per some of the vintage Seiko fat bars.
       
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      Also watchgecko or holbens has them I believe
       
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