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Just wanted to say hello! I have purchased my first vintage watch and I am fascinated by the mechanical movement. I really like the sound of how the watch runs!...

Well, I have read the sticky posts -- and before I make a fool of myself with stupid questions..... can anyone point me toward good reading on vintage watches? Tissot focus would be grand (that's what I bought).

I am not interested in the value of the watch, more so it's heratige and if it's real or fake :)...

Nice to *meet* everyone!

** edit ** ooops, forgot to post pics of the watch I bought ROFL....
 

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The watch appears geniune. The movement is a Tissot Cal. 27-1T (cf. http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?00&ranfft&0&2uswk&Tissot_27_1T - but be aware that the picture there shows the Cal. 27-21T with indirect central second adaptation which includes an extra wheel on the back) and if Ranfft is correct in his serial numbering, yours ought to be from the mid-fifties.

Hartmut Richter
 
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It is definitely in the Tissot 27 calibre family. But I don't think it's a 27-1T... there are others in the family that look closer like the 27 itself. These calibres were made from the middle 30's to the middle 50's.

Hartmut, does Ranfft have a serial number list? ... or did you get this information from all the movement pics??
 
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I tend to agree with Hartmut that it's from the 1950s. The stampings on the back plate and the serial number are pretty close to the 27-21T from 1952 illustrated in the Ranfft archive. The corresponding subsecond movement would be 27-1T.
As far as I know Tissot does not have a serial number list published on the Internet.
Thanks to the original poster for posting.
 
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Ah, you are correct. I had always assumed the movement pics at Ranfft were of the actual calibre being discussed. But he re-uses pics... evidently the pic for 27-1T is actually a 27-21T...

In a much earlier post in this forum it was mentioned the book Tissot used to distribute with their watches had a serial number list. So I got both the English and German versions and couldn't find it. (The German version has a lot more nice pictures!) Too bad. It would be very useful.

Maybe that's one of the reasons old Omegas are so valuable... you can get a lot of information about them... ?? AFAIKT, these Tissots are just as well built.
 
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I like Tissot very much and agree it's a quality watch. Just not as much info about them unfortunately.
About the only watches that can be positively identified from movement serial numbers are certain higher end Swiss and a fair number of "all-American" brands.
 
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I have very limited knowledge of chronographs. I believe the Janeiro came out in the 1990s and was inspired by some of Tissot's chrono models from the 1930s.
Perhaps others more expert than I can weigh in here.
 
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Hi Atoche when you post the question "...can anyone point me toward good reading on vintage watches?" Do you mean all kind of vintage brands or just for Tissot? Because for the former, my suggestion could be the
-"Wristwatches", Gisbert L. Brunner and Christian Pfeiffer-Belli, Könemann, 2006.

IMHO a must!!

Hasta la vista amigo;-)
 
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Hi WISs,

just to complete the confusion with the Tissot 27: It is a Tissot 27B, made
in 1953. This calibre was produced like the 27B-1 between 1950 and 1961:
http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&&2uswk&Tissot_27_B_1&

The "-1" extension simply designates the Incabloc, and as the majority
was produced with Incabloc, the 27B is still missing in my archive.

Anyway, I'll take the opportunity to add a family/generations table to the
calibre 27 entries - maybe this will prevent confusion in the future.

@Eeeb: The Tissot book from Estelle Fallet is available in a light and a
heavy (expensive) edition. I don't know, but suspect that both are
available in English. Simply ask Tissot - I can recommend it warmly.

Regards, Roland Ranfft
 
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Roland Ranfft said:
Hi WISs,

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@Eeeb: The Tissot book from Estelle Fallet is available in a light and a
heavy (expensive) edition. I don't know, but suspect that both are
available in English. Simply ask Tissot - I can recommend it warmly.

Regards, Roland Ranfft
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Yes - both available in English. In the Uk, the big book costs £65.<|

I got mine for £13, brand new - still cellophaned, off ebay:-!.
 
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I asked Tissot... All my eBay searches turned up the Fallet 'lite' version that was given away free with the boxes (which used to have a drawer just for the book!).
 
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Thanks! I did some more searching and found 3 booksellers with copies ... none for less than $350 US!! Do you realize how many Seastars I could buy for that! :-d

(The 'freebie' copies are going for $50! Tissot should go into the book publishing business ;-) )
 
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