I'd love to see a full colour range of TGraphs - or at least Sharkhunter, Searambler, Professional - but price wise I'd say around £3k in the UK - bit more than the Aquastar Deepstar. Those are the only two chronos I'm really interested in - the Aquastar is very attractive but the Doxa would take it for me in terms of L2L wearability and especially height. They are miles off with the current TGraph pricing and the fact that they are still unsold tells its own story. I think they looked at what folks were asking for originals and thought the market could handle it - obviously not.

 

I’m really liking it but can’t justify the price, especially if a non limited edition was released soon after purchasing.
Was a t-graph available at a discount in the Jomashop sale? I know they haven’t materialised yet, but what was the pricing?

 

$3300 with a bracelet, I ordered one. There was also one with rubber.

 

I don't get the love for the Aquastar. Visually, it looks a total mess to me.

As for the 200 T-Graph you could call Jura and ask for a discount. It might not be much but...

I got £120 off my 300T.

 

I can understand why the Deepstar wouldn't be for everyone, but I can also understand why the T-Graph isn't for everyone too. This is an older picture showing (my) older 2005 T-Graph and the first of the modern Deepstars, which is the biggest.

I put (my) in brackets because the T-Graph is no longer mine. I had it from 2005 and probably wore it 20 times. I used it mostly for photos and reviews. It was worn so little because it was one of the most uncomfortable watches I've ever owned. An absolutely beautiful watch and a classic Doxa icon but for my puny 6.75 inch wrist it wore like a slab of concrete. I was always aware it was on my wrist and it moved about so much and just irritated me so I never wore it. There really was no point in keeping it. Same with the SUB 5000T. Its also gone.

The Deepstar 2020 wears far better and the new smaller Deepstar 2022 is a wrist hugger even though it is a taller watch and longer lug to lug.

DS 2022 17mm high, T-Graph 16mm. T-Graph lug to lug 47. DS 2022 lug to lug 49mm. The biggest difference is the weight. The Deepstar weighs 175 grams for my 6.75 inch wrist. The T-Graph is 216 grams. It's a brick.

Reviews can be found here if anyone is interested.

A Dive Into Time – The Aquastar Book

If Doxa updated the T-Graph to make it thinner and lighter, flat caseback, blah, blah, blah and dropped the price considerably, I'd buy one in a flash. But until then there is no comparison in wearability (for me) between the T-Graphs that are out there now and the 39mm Deepstar.

And don't get me started on the relative histories. I've written books on both...ha, ha, ha

 

Same with the SUB 5000T. Its also gone.

Gone to a new home, big thanks to the @Flyingdoctor!
Still smiling! Good thing I’m not off diving anytime soon, no way I’d be able to keep the regulator in 🤿 😂

 

Thanks for your responses.
Does anyone have a side by side shot of the 200 t graph and a 300t?

 

This is from my review. T_Graph, 600T and 750T

 

I find the new Doxa T-Graph 200 wears similar to the Doxa 300T on my wrist yes is taller but my wrist at 7 inch can carry it. Still loving the T-Graph!

T-Graph:
Diameter 43.00 x 46.00 mm
Height 15.00 mm

 

I find the new Doxa T-Graph 200 wears similar to the Doxa 300T on my wrist yes is taller but my wrist at 7 inch can carry it. Still loving the T-Graph!

T-Graph:
Diameter 43.00 x 46.00 mm
Height 15.00 mm

You able to provide a side by side view like the Doc's above? His older TGraph look huge!

 

Not 100% sure about it - but the T.Graph Dr os talking about, was a sub 600, isn't it?

The sub 200 is much smaller and indeed comparable to the size of sub 1200.

Bark & Jack did a grat review that you can find on youtube.


You also could check this thread

Couple questions for the Sub 200 T.Graph owners

Im really tempted of getting the Sub 200 T.Graph for my 40th birthday but at the same time Im a bit hesitant to pull the trigger. If I buy it then the watch would be my #1 daily wearing piece so I really want to get this right. The questions: 1.) How does it wear on the wrist? I know it is...

www.watchuseek.com

I posted some infos about the size and weight of the sub 200 t
In this one [emoji106]

 

When I owned the 200 Tgraph I felt like it was a premium Doxa product. I have owned the doxa sub 300 T, 300 50th anniversary, and Synchron Military. The Sub 200 Tgraph was superior in build and finish to all of those in my opinion. Expensive but probably the best Doxa.

 

I agree, the 600T I had was a cut above other SUBs. Actually, hated to sell it but there really wasn't any point in keeping it just for the odd pic in a review. Sounds like the 200 T-Graph might be a bit smaller and lighter. No rotor on the movement would definitely shave a mm off the caseback / overall thickness. Anyone got both to compare?

 

The t graph 200 is a perfect sized chronograph , I had the original Aquastar 2020 but after the initial new watch buzz wore off I didn’t bond with it and sold it I wasn’t a fan of not having a bracelet and the new tropic is disappointing compared to an original plus I’m not a fan of 22mm lugs very well made though but not for me
i still have the doxa and speedy, basically its the size of a 1200t

 

@Flyingdoctor just needed to borrow this Pic from you're website:

Source

Look at this color schemes, fantastic! Thats how they will get me to buy another new Doxa again!

 

You should drop a line to Seestern or Marenez, they will pop one out in a fortnight.

 

I dont want to go down that route also... honestly I dont need another Dive Watch... but I will want one some day.. a Doxa Chrono

To be honest you can get a good Speedmaster Pro Mk2 for that money...

But I dont want a Speedmaster?

 

To be honest you can get a good Speedmaster Pro Mk2 for that money...

 

I don’t really understand your comparison if you want a speedy get a speedy it’s not a bit like the t graph

 

Better....wonderful word which doesn't mean squat unless qualified.... better made, better components, better price, better weight, better size, blah, blah, blah. These need to be backed up by facts.

Better made....how exactly?

Then we get into the better looking, better feel etc, etc which are purely subjective. Yea..... better.

 

Better made for purpose / better made for me and my taste.

that’s the better that matters to me. And in some way a better price = nearer at my view of a good price for it.

But I think that’s more than @daglesj wanted to say…

 

Hey just saying sometimes folks get a little too over enthusiastic for something and forget alternatives. Not a problem when it's something costing $200 but... I remember a friend of mine was really wanting to but a certain very expensive Ford car. He was really locked on to buying it. I just happened to mention "oh you know for that money you could get a year old.....!"

Two weeks later he was driving one and the Ford was never mentioned again.

It's just my opinion Doxa's are not that greater value once over a certain price point compared to some other brands/watches. Sorry if I've upset anyone over watches lol.

But at the end of the day it's your money folks. Enjoy it.

 

Sometime I feel like this forum can read my mind, literally, I just sold my speedy and I'm looking to buy a 200 tgraph. Glad to see a couple of know names from the Deepstar threads giving the 200 a couple of thumbs up. Definitely I would get one. Didn't know jomashop got them, the thing is a friend buy a 300 from them 2 months ago but he didn't received the watch yet

 

How many are in the LE and I wonder how many have been sold? A relatively rare watch on the second hand market probably.

 

300. Still on sale but 5 grand is a big ask. Secondhand prices are way below that. 3200 - 3500.

 

but sadly cause of the highretail price and low sales there are not much on secondhand available. Saw maybe two or three on Chrono the last year…

 

Yep that is a more realistic price - same as the Joma price (if they ever show up). Doxa don't seem to care that they aren't selling though I guess slashing the price would annoy those that paid full retail. Would all 300 have been produced?

 

I ordered and received a 200 T Graph last week. Unfortunately, the seconds hand didn’t reset to twelve o’clock and was about half a second out. I sent it back and was meant to receive a replacement Saturday but after sleeping on it for a couple of days, decided against it. I’ve read a few instances of returns for this model and for the price being asked, they really need to up their quality control to give customers confidence in their product.
Anyway, if anyone is interested, Goldsmiths in the Trafford centre have a nice Doxa display with all models (including the t graph) on display.

 

Sorry to hear that. Ah well the search continues...

Edit...Is there no hand adjust on the 200 T? All Chronos I've had allow you to manually adjust the Chrono to line up properly.

 

Sorry to hear that. Ah well the search continues...

The search never stops 😛
To be fair it’s a stunning watch and deep down I’m absolutely gutted but sometimes the head needs to overrule the heart.
I visited the Omega boutique whilst there and tried on the 43.5mm black/orange planet ocean on both the bracelet and rubber. The fit and quality of the rubber strap with deployant was outstanding and suited my 6.75” wrist far better than the bracelet so maybe that’s next on the list.

 

I’ve owned a Speedmaster, Daytona and the t graph. Not one of those had any kind of manual adjustment that I know of.
@deaglesj, which chrono did you own that had this feature? I can only presume it’s an internal manual adjustment that would require the back to come off? Not something I’m willing to do with a new watch.

 

Ahh no! The only chronos I have - Bulova Lunar pilot, A MWC pilot Chrono and my Seiko Flightmaster all have this manual hand adjust but...they are quartz! The wonders of modern technology!

Hold in one button and press the other to move it a second at a time till it lines up where you want it and done.

 

I need a 200 T graph on my life, its amaze me how good look on the wrist

 

Sorry, wrong thread