[Stubbadub]

A declining Interest in Stowa watches in general maybe ?! I am a bit tired of seeing all those limited editions or special models, basically just featuring a change in colour (dial or case). Bought my last Stowa in 2018, turned towards Dekla, Hanhart, Nomos since then.

If their discounts decrese, isnt it a sign of interest? Less discounts needed to interest people would indicate they have enough people paying full price. Also discounts are like stains for watchbrands, they hurt their reputation and percieved quality long term.

I am just thinking aloud

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[john_marston]

Is there only one watch available for each day?

One type, but not a singular watch. Usually a bunch

Also, these are virtually new watches. I have yet to hear of a advent watch with noticeable wear.

I thought their bronze 36mm flieger was a really cool release. Buy Stowa does seem more conservative with new releases. They could spice things up for sure. I expect we’ll see some new stuff after the business acquisition

 

[rifmon]

I bought a blue classic flieger, and its still not sold out, maybe they have 3-5 pieces per number day.

Anyway heres hoping it arrives before chrismas

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That explains why I was able to request a hand wind version of the Marine Auto they listed in the calendar a few years back. But there was not a hand wind option listed in the selection. I aquired it by an email request. Low and behold, an tandwind was delivered! btw, it was new not used. Not saying it wasn't a watch used for a display, but certainly not used.

 

[Jonathan T]

A declining Interest in Stowa watches in general maybe ?! I am a bit tired of seeing all those limited editions or special models, basically just featuring a change in colour (dial or case). Bought my last Stowa in 2018, turned towards Dekla, Hanhart, Nomos since then.

I too have noticed a lot more special editions from Stowa th last few years coupled with the “special edition” premium prices!

 

[Emphasis]

I know this is off topic, but does anyone have any idea if Stowa will make a move towards implementing notable in-house manufacturing/movements? I wouldn't mind seeing an option or two just to see what they can pull off. Not complaining at all about the current use of ETA and Selitta, as they currently do offer a lot of watch for the money.

Now on topic, I purchased an Antea 365 from last year's advent, and it's been nothing but a joy to wear. Why not offer display and pre-owned watches (but in great condition) directly to customers, instead of dumping them onto the grey market? So far so good:

 

[StufflerMike]

I know this is off topic, but does anyone have any idea if Stowa will make a move towards implementing notable in-house manufacturing/movements? I wouldn't mind seeing an option or two just to see what they can pull off. Not complaining at all about the current use of ETA and Selitta, as they currently do offer a lot of watch for the money.

Now on topic, I purchased an Antea 365 from last year's advent, and it's been nothing but a joy to wear. Why not offer display and pre-owned watches (but in great condition) directly to customers, instead of dumping them onto the grey market? So far so good:

Notable in-house movements ? What could that be ?
Movements from Tempus Arte Group ? UWD ? I tend to say that we won‘t see that. Too expensive, a Stowa with UWD movement would cost double the price of a Rana.
Movements from other German manufacturers ? Nomos ? Nomos does not sell ebauches to other companies. Damasko ? Might be an option if Stowa is willing to pay the price which will catapult a Stowa Klassik into the €1800 - €2000 bracket. See what Germano and Findeisen ask for watches with Damasko movements.

Stowa sells all watches (new, display) directly to their customers. Never ever noticed they are dumping watches onto the grey market. IMHO and as far as I remember they never did. Not their business model.

 

[foxl]

Too expensive, a Stowa with UWD movement would cost double the price of a Rana.

I agree;
But i See a small Business case in Highly deckorated Standard movements, that could be sourced via the new Company structure.
Customized via online configuration, for stowaristi hardcore Fans.
Not for Stowas Core Business.

 

[StufflerMike]

I agree;
But i See a small Business case in Highly deckorated Standard movements, that could be sourced via the new Company structure.
Customized via online configuration, for stowaristi hardcore Fans.
Not for Stowas Core Business.

What price range would you be envisaging ?

 

[foxl]

lets say i would be a hardcore Stowa fan and want e.g. a Marine Original in a Sterling Silver case plus a customized Unitas 6498-2 with „durowe“ Bridges/Cocks i might Pay 3.000 plus Euros.

could me a niche for fans.

DUW Company could be capable of producing such customized Parts.

 

[Stubbadub]

lets say i would be a hardcore Stowa fan and want e.g. a Marine Original in a Sterling Silver case plus a customized Unitas 6498-2 with „durowe“ Bridges/Cocks i might Pay 3.000 plus Euros.

could me a niche for fans.

DUW Company could be capable of producing such customized Parts.

They already sold a couple pieces in gold that cost 6 times more, it could work, but it would be nieche and likely more expensive.

 

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Notable in-house movements ? What could that be ?
Movements from Tempus Arte Group ? UWD ? I tend to say that we won‘t see that. Too expensive, a Stowa with UWD movement would cost double the price of a Rana.
Movements from other German manufacturers ? Nomos ? Nomos does not sell ebauches to other companies. Damasko ? Might be an option if Stowa is willing to pay the price which will catapult a Stowa Klassik into the €1800 - €2000 bracket. See what Germano and Findeisen ask for watches with Damasko movements.

Stowa sells all watches (new, display) directly to their customers. Never ever noticed they are dumping watches onto the grey market. IMHO and as far as I remember they never did. Not their business model.

I understand costs for watches with new movements (and materials) would spike up, but if Stowa managed to pull it off, perhaps it would bring in new buyers and give another option for existing customers. I'm not disappointed the option doesn't exist, it's just a thought.

I was also acknowledging the implementation of the advent calendar is great. I agree with Stowa's model of not shoving watches onto the grey market but instead offering us great selections.

 

[Stubbadub]

I feel like having a "stowa collection" doesnt really work, like a rolex/omega collection would. Stowas already share cases and movements, theres not that many variations, (if ypu dobt look a

I understand costs for watches with new movements (and materials) would spike up, but if Stowa managed to pull it off, perhaps it would bring in new buyers and give another option for existing customers. I'm not disappointed the option doesn't exist, it's just a thought.

I was also acknowledging the implementation of the advent calendar is great. I agree with Stowa's model of not shoving watches onto the grey market but instead offering us great selections.

They dont do Grey market, so no issue there, they make them after they recieve their orders. But i do agree every watch looks the same, nobody has a "stowa collection", like those collecting rolex or omega. There just isnt enough variety within the brand

 

[gaidong]

I must confess, I have bowed out of the calendar wait. I have been researching watches with 6498s for months now and was fixed on the Stowa Marine Original as an entry level option (ultimately I'd like a Garrick S4). However, I ended up playing on eBay and AliExpress this weekend and bought case, dial and hands from a French e-shop (actually less than 20km from me) and a Seagull skeletonised movement from China... The Seagull is 3 Hz when I really wanted a 2.5 Hz but even if Stowa do 15% on their watch, I've still saved over €1000 to scratch this persistent itch. If the build kit doesn't work out, not much lost, and I can dissect the movement to my heart's delight. I could even replace the movement with a customised ETA if needed. Oh well, if the calendar had come up trumps in the first 10-12 days I would certainly have pulled the trigger.

 

[wim13]

I must confess, I have bowed out of the calendar wait. I have been researching watches with 6498s for months now and was fixed on the Stowa Marine Original as an entry level option (ultimately I'd like a Garrick S4). However, I ended up playing on eBay and AliExpress this weekend and bought case, dial and hands from a French e-shop (actually less than 20km from me) and a Seagull skeletonised movement from China... The Seagull is 3 Hz when I really wanted a 2.5 Hz but even if Stowa do 15% on their watch, I've still saved over €1000 to scratch this persistent itch. If the build kit doesn't work out, not much lost, and I can dissect the movement to my heart's delight. I could even replace the movement with a customised ETA if needed. Oh well, if the calendar had come up trumps in the first 10-12 days I would certainly have pulled the trigger.

Didn't you consider Dekla Deckwatch? Looks very similar to MO, is about 700 EUR cheaper, and Dekla seems to have very good reputation for quality.

 

[Stowie]

Interesting the watch they released for day 14. Never seen that dial configuration before.

 

[StufflerMike]

Interesting the watch they released for day 14. Never seen that dial configuration before.

Was made for the japanese market.

 

[gaidong]

Didn't you consider Dekla Deckwatch? Looks very similar to MO, is about 700 EUR cheaper, and Dekla seems to have very good reputation for quality.

I did but their decorations are floral, and a lot extra.

 

[brainless]

Was made for the japanese market.
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That is a different dial, Mike.

 

[StufflerMike]

That is a different dial, Mike.

Yes, a different dial. As Stowa mentiones, the second series (of the special edition for the japanese market) wasn‘t taken by the customer. Identical rotor engraving.

 

[WwD]

I've been continuing to watch the sale. I've been pretty interested in a Type B Flieger from them but so far all their Advent deals have been Type A.