2021 Speedmaster Chronoscope clasp compatibility with the 3861 Moonwatch bracelet?

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E30 Racer

Discussion Starter · Sep 25, 2021

It’s 16 mm and adjustable. I like the fit of my 3861 Moonwatch bracelet, but wouldn’t mind having some on-the-fly adjustability. Has anyone looked into whether the chronoscope clasp will be available separately (I.e., without having to buy the entire bracelet)?

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AviF

· #121 · Mar 31, 2022

AviF said:
What is 6H and 12H please?

OH- duh- 6ocklock. well, I hope I got the correct one!

AviF

· #122 · Mar 31, 2022

AviF said:
OH- duh- 6ocklock. well, I hope I got the correct one!

I'm actually nervous now... looking back on this thread- the link needed is definitely the 6H position which connects to the arm. According to this new info, I ordered the 12H and not the 6H. If anyone can confirm the latest info regarding the correct part number for the part needed, I would very much appreciate.

fes

· #123 · Apr 1, 2022

From my understanding 6 side and 12 side.

However I am confused. As it does not seem to me you would need a 'attachment' link on the 12 side of the clasp?

On the 12 side of the clasp the 'attachment' link is appears to be apart of the clasp and should be included with the clasp.

Picture below from Fratello.

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If anyone can share any further information regarding O118STZ013904 would be great. Will probably just order anyways and find out since O118STZ013110 is no longer available.

(Have confirmed O118STZ013110 is no longer available in both Canada and Hong Kong)

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Qianbro

· #124 · Apr 1, 2022 (Edited)

Watch Free Fall said:
Just had my sapphire 3861 Moonwatch clasp updated to the Chronoscope clasp at an Omega AD.
Nice that the Omega AD just did the work in ten minutes without question (very different than how my Rolex AD responded to a similar non-standard request: "We are not authorized to do any non-standard work on any Rolex product."). The Omega AD that I ordered the parts from only said, "Substituting this clasp is non-standard, so these parts are non-refundable if they don't do what you want."

Note the required Chronoscope bracelet replacement link doesn't have the polished, narrow inner links that the sapphire bracelet has, however it's barely noticeable to my watch nerd eyes (probably already mentioned earlier in this thread).
2.3mm is a small adjustment for sure, but it's been better than no quick adjustment, and I'm happy with it.

Thanks so much to all the people that contributed to this thread !

If possible @Watch Free Fall, can you please share a photo of the Chronoscope bracelet replacement link installed on a sapphire Speedy bracelet? Thanks!

fes

· #125 · Apr 5, 2022

"Very unfortunately, I already checked with the Omega HQ several times for any hope to have O118STZ013110 back, but their answer was firm and this part is definitely obsolete.

The clasp O117STZ013899 already comes with 1 x 12 H clasp attachment link, O118STZ013904."

Response from Swatch.

E30 Racer

Discussion Starter · #126 · Apr 5, 2022

fes said:
"Very unfortunately, I already checked with the Omega HQ several times for any hope to have O118STZ013110 back, but their answer was firm and this part is definitely obsolete.

The clasp O117STZ013899 already comes with 1 x 12 H clasp attachment link, O118STZ013904."

Response from Swatch.

Did they provide a price for the O117STZ013899 + O118STZ013904 combo?

AviF

· #127 · Apr 5, 2022

So, do I understand that now only the clasp is needed 0117STZ013899 and not the extra link
0118STZ013904? If anyone has clarity on this please post!

rich-96db

· #128 · Apr 12, 2022

AviF said:
So, do I understand that now only the clasp is needed 0117STZ013899 and not the extra link
0118STZ013904? If anyone has clarity on this please post!

Just got an email that my 0118STZ013904 shipped and I'll have it on April 15. I'll post an update once I receive it.

KingCor

· #129 · Apr 12, 2022

rich-96db said:
Just got an email that my 0118STZ013904 shipped and I'll have it on April 15. I'll post an update once I receive it.

I’m being told by my boutique that they can’t order 3110 or 3904. Can anyone confirm in the US? They said they can order the clasp no problem 3899.

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AviF

· #130 · Apr 12, 2022

rich-96db said:
Just got an email that my 0118STZ013904 shipped and I'll have it on April 15. I'll post an update once I receive it.

Does this mean you already have the new clasp? Does something appear to be lacking?

rich-96db

· #131 · Apr 12, 2022

AviF said:
Does this mean you already have the new clasp? Does something appear to be lacking?

Yes, I already have the clasp - see post #61 in this thread.

AviF

· #132 · Apr 12, 2022

rich-96db said:
Yes, I already have the clasp - see post #61 in this thread.

Got it. I look forward to seeing your post when the part is received. Thanks.

AviF

· #133 · Apr 13, 2022

This is the email I received today:
Good Morning!

Please be advised that attachment link O118STZ013904 has been canceled and discontinued from above order.
This will come with complete clasp that has been ordered.
I assume that now no additional link is needed. If anyone has clarity on this please advise!

AviF

· #134 · Apr 13, 2022

Update: I just spoke with a rep at Swatch group. She explained that the new clasp comes with the necessary end link and that no additional end link is needed. Mine is still back ordered for another month or so, and then I need to get it to where I'm currently living, but will update when received. It appears that now only one piece- the clasp- is necessary for the conversion.

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rich-96db

· #135 · Apr 13, 2022

The O118STZ013904 is not the right part to convert to the Chronoscope clasp. It's the push button mechanism for the clasp.

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AviF

· #136 · Apr 14, 2022

rich-96db said:
The O118STZ013904 is not the right part to convert to the Chronoscope clasp. It's the push button mechanism for the clasp.

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Thanks for clarifying this. Apparently the part number was either changed from earlier postings or there was confusion. If you have made a successful conversion with the new clasp, please indicate the part number that was needed. From what I can tell, the ONLY part that needs to be ordered is clasp 0117STZ013899. I would appreciate your confirming this. Thanks!

shane.shepherd

· #137 · Apr 21, 2022

I just went to the Omega Boutique today, and the watchmaker told me there is NO WAY to get it to fit right now, because the 6H link (O118STZ013110) is not available to order.

Yes, the clasp (0117STZ013899) now comes complete with the push button mechanism (O118STZ013904), but it's unconfirmed whether or not it contains the 6H link (O118STZ013110) to make the conversion happen. The watchmaker had a chronoscope clasp (0117STZ013899) right in front of me, and he told me he ordered it in Jan, and it did not come with the 6H link (0117STZ013899), therefore, perfect conversion is not available right now.

Iowa_Watchman

· #138 · Apr 25, 2022

Just to confirm what others have said, 118STZ013904 is not the correct part. This is the push button/link from the 12 o’clock side of the watch. What is needed is the connecting bracelet link from the 6 o’clock side of the watch to accept the wider folding arm of the clasp.

Well that was a waste of money…

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AviF

· #139 · Apr 25, 2022

Iowa_Watchman said:
Just to confirm what others have said, 118STZ013904 is not the correct part. This is the push button/link from the 12 o’clock side of the watch. What is needed is the connecting bracelet link from the 6 o’clock side of the watch to accept the wider folding arm of the clasp.

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Thanks for this confirmation. Do you know whether or not, as others have said and as I have been told by an rep from Omega, that now the clasp is sold together with the connecting link so that all that is needed is part# 0117STZ013899?
thx.

Tim Plains

· #140 · Apr 25, 2022 (Edited)

Deleted. Misinformation.

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