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Hello there,

I guess before I will start with the actual topic of this thread I need to introduce msyelf a bit out of courtesy.
Well, here we go.

My name is Patrick, currently still 29 years old and I am living with my wife in Dubai (UAE). Originally born in Poland and grown up in Germany, I spent some time living in Boston (USA), than moved to Switzerland for my studies and finally moved in 2007 to Dubai.

My interest in watches was rather a bumpy road, I had a Casio as child, nothing fancy but at one point I got disturbed by wearing something on my wrist and I stopped. As teenager my parents bought me a Citizen Titanium watch which I was wearng for couple of years.

But I guest the interest in watches started when I bought a Swatch Iron & Soul (please don't laugh) in New York on Times Square when I visited the city for the first time. The next one was Certina DS Action on the day my nephew was born while being in Switzerland. And from that time onwards the collection grew over the years to currently 18 watches, most of them being Seikos. Obviously the budget prevented me to purchase something more expensive and exclusive but I was happy with what I collected.



However, and now we are coming BTT, since the beginning of my interest in watches I always wanted to own an Omega. Don't ask me why, but I feel connected to this brand more than to any other watch brand and for years I am longing now to get one of these timepieces!


Well, I am going to turn 30 next year and now I decided (and my wife approved :-d) to get an Omega. And here lies the problem.

Which one should be the first one? Yes, the first one, cause I am planning to concentrate on Omegas from now onwards and to hopefully increase my collection over the next years.

Now, I guess I should start with the Omegas I am interested in:

A) Omega Seamster 300M (212.30.41.61.01.001 quartz or 212.30.41.20.01.00 automatic)
B) Omega Planet Ocean new (232.30.42.21.01.00)
C) Omega Speedmaster with the Hesalit glass (Moonwatch) (3570.50.00)
D) Omega Aqua Terra (231.10.39.61.02.002 quartz or 231.10.42.21.02.001 automatic)
Now, here is the problem.

Living in Dubai brings an opportunity while buying an Omega watch with the local retailer.
It looks as following:

You buy 1 or more Omega watches with a value of AED 20,000.00 (approx. 4000 Euro) and you receive a voucher worth 50% of the first invoice for free which you can spend on any other watch (not only Omega, but Oris, Montblanc, Tissot, Longines, Glashütte, JLC and a couple more). Now forget the other watch brands, I only want Omega.

You see, here is the big problem I have. Some of the above watches are obviously below the hurdle amoutn of AED 20,000.00 and some are above. On the other hand some are automatic and some are quartz. I obiously do not have too much money available, therefore I need to find the best deal which will satisfy my needs.

Let's give you all the information to help me out:

1) SMP 300M quartz = AED 9,000.00
2) SMP 300M Chronometer = AED 14,500.00
3) new PO = AED 23,400.00
4) Speedy = AED 17,100.00
5) AT quartz = AED 10,400.00
6) AT automatic = AED 20,700.00

I did hours, days and weeks of calculating the different options, but I have one big big problem. I cannot decide, if I should consider a quartz movement or just stick to an automatic. I read tons of threads in different watch forums about the pro's and con's of a quartz movement vs. an automatic one and vice versa and until now I cannot make up my mind.

If I could I would take all of them as automatic, but I cannot.

The other things is, that I wish to obviously make use of the voucher which allows me to purchase 2 Omegas together, which makes this even more interesting.

Calculating the different options it would be even possible to get 3 with the limit I myself (and my wife) gave me.

So here we go, now I need your help, assistance, suggestions and support!

This are the different combinations I came up with so far:

Option 1) new PO + SMP 300M automatic = AED 26,400.00
Option 2) new PO + SMP 300M quartz = AED 23,400.00 with AED 2,700.00 left for a Tissot or sth. else
Option 3) automatic AT + SMP 300M automatic = AED 25,500.00
Option 4) automatic AT + SMP 300M quartz = AED 20,700.00 with AED 1,350.00 left for sth. else
Option 5) Speedy + AT quartz + SMP 300M quartz = AED 26,100.00 with AED 2,650.00 left for sth. else

Now, I guess some will ask, why the hell does this guy needs 2 or even 3 Omegas at once? Well, I don't actually need any watch (I have 18 of them) but I really want to give myself one for my 30th birthday and with the offer available (not yet confirmed though, but it looks like it's gonna happen) I would save between 27,78% to 30,30% on this double or tripple deal.

And taking into consideration that Omega unfortunately increased the prices 5x in the last 2 years and I heard already that they are looking into another increase by either December this year or early next year makes me think to better get as many of them as possible before they will get even more expensive than they already are.

So, please guys, please give me some of your thoughts on this and how you would decide in my case and why?

I highly appreciate your help!

cheers
Patrick
 

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I would look to prioritise which ones you want first. Also factor in the quartz watches will likely be discontinued next year as Omega looks to go full auto. I personally like the quartz SMP but understand people see them as inferior to Auto. You may still be able to get an original PO which is a great watch.
 

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Well, there are multiple more factors to be considered:

PRO quartz:
1) As you said, the Quartz calibers will be discontinued, so maybe a good reason to take one actually before they are gone, on the other side it might be difficult to get spare parts in 15-20 years when the movement will need to be replaced
2) Quartz is more acurate, easy to grab when you have to run out in the morning and you don't want to spend time adjusting the watch
3) the maintenance is way more affordable (change of battery every 3-5 years) vs. servicing for a couple of hundred Euro every 5 years
4) less expensive to purchase
5) more of a tool watch, you don't have to be that careful with being a bit rough in the sense of shocks to the movement

CONTRA quartz:
5) the ticking second (actually not really nice)
6) it needs a battery every couple of years
7) the lifespan of the movement is suppose to last only up to 15-20 years and will need replacement


In regards to the ones I want first, that's the difficult decision! I want them all equally! I only know that the 300M (regardless of quartz or auto) will come with either of the options and will be my daily "rocker" which I will still be very careful with. The main watch however is the one I am thinking of, I love the Speedy, but only as original Moonwatch with the Hesalit, I love the new PO with the 8500 caliber and look through back case and 4 years warranty, and the Aqua Terra is a great watch for the office.

Though, I think the AT would be more of a go out for dinner watch as the 300M is planned for the daily wear in the office. But than on the other side, if I get the PO and the 300M both would be divers.

You see, it's a dilemma I am in! (a nice one some might say considering the fact that I will get 2 Omegas for sure, but still a dilemma I still don't have the answer to after weeks of thought and multiple calculations).

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Speedy Pro + quartz SMP300 gets my vote

A quartz bond Seamaster is the perfect grab-and-go watch and the Speedy Pro is well, the Speedy Pro
 

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Gotta love first world problems, right ;-)

But seriously, this is a great problem to have :-!
 

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Option 3) automatic AT + SMP 300M automatic - both great watches.
 

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I think buying an Omega quartz watch would be a tremendous waste of money. I believe they just use off the shelf ETA movements, dress them up and charge 2000 dollars for them. Besides the name on the dial, it is virtually no different than a 400 dollar Tissot. I honestly don't understand why anyone would buy a luxury quartz watch, but that's just me. You should go with a speedmaster professional + one of the automatic seamasters. Both beautiful and highly respected.
 

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I need to correct myself. It looks like the quartz movement is Omega's own, not ETA. Still wouldn't buy it though.....
 

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I think buying an Omega quartz watch would be a tremendous waste of money. I believe they just use off the shelf ETA movements, dress them up and charge 2000 dollars for them. Besides the name on the dial, it is virtually no different than a 400 dollar Tissot. I honestly don't understand why anyone would buy a luxury quartz watch, but that's just me. You should go with a speedmaster professional + one of the automatic seamasters. Both beautiful and highly respected.
Based on your reasoning, I'm curious why you chose "a 400 dollar Tissot". Taking it further (down your road), how is that different from e.g., a 50 dollar Fossil?
 

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I agree with your point. I should have said a 50 dollar fossil. I think I said that because I was looking down at my 400 dollar tissot at the time......
 

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I got my Speedy just a few weeks ago. I wanted a Speedy and a PO 8500. Now that I have the Speedy, my interest in the PO has really waned. I am loving the Speedy more than I ever thought I would.
 

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Thanks so far, but probem is still the same.

The option of the AT 8500 + Speedy would be nice, but this would mean that the AT would become my daily rocker and it seems unfair for the watch. I kind of couldn't do this to the AT, that's why one of the options should include the 300M and together it's already more than I was initially planning to spend. (My wifes patience cannot be strechted much further.)

Coming back to the question, like in most other forums the clash between PRO quartz and CONTRA quartz is what makes me undecided. As some wrote, a 300M in quartz is THE tool watch and a grab & go piece, which makes sense, but on the other side I understand that a mechanical watch might live with the proper service for generations to come, while a quartz movement's life span is doomed to end after 15-20 years.

The argument is that a watchmaker will be able to service a watch even in 50 years while the quartz movement will need full replacement. But with Omega now discontinuing the quartz movements in the 300M and AT what will that mean for the future? A mechanical watch might not have the parts available either, but they could be tailor made manufactured by a specialist which would not be the case with a quartz one!

But talking about cost, the quartz movements are more affordable to run, a battery change every 3-5 years for lets say Euro 150.00 with new sealing of the watch, that's it! And a replacement ETA quartz movement currently costs approx. Euro 100.00 which would be due in 15-20 years (if available).

The biggest concern I have is the servicing of the watch once the quartz movement will die. If I could be sure that it will be still available for replacement and the lifespan of the watch can be extended for another 15-20 years I would have less doubts! But who can guarantee this? I cannot find anything on the Omega webpage that says exactly that!

I am just not sure at all! The automatic models all cost way more than the quartz ones and they require a regular service for a long life (every 5-7 years depending on the usage of the watch). So every 5-7 years another CHF 410 or approx. Euro 300.00 and this only if the prices will remain the same (which they won't!).

Please guys, give me more thoughts and why you have decided to buy a quartz (and when, as well as how long you own it and did you do any service so far) or why you bought an automatic movement (when, and did you service it so far and what was the cost).

Servicing an automatic movement, does it really cost what is mentioned on the Omega webpage or do they charge things on top of that?

Thanks a lot!
 

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I got my Speedy just a few weeks ago. I wanted a Speedy and a PO 8500. Now that I have the Speedy, my interest in the PO has really waned. I am loving the Speedy more than I ever thought I would.
Was the Speedy your first Omega or do you have already 1 or more before the Speedy?
 

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Was the Speedy your first Omega or do you have already 1 or more before the Speedy?
My first Omega was/is a Titanium Seamaster, which I also love (I received it in trade with a forum member). I still love that watch and would actually prefer a PO 8500 in Titanium (but with a black dial, as I'm not a blue dial fan)... So now I wait to see if Omega ever comes out with that...|>
 

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I'd go with the AT to get over the magic number and then go with a Speedy or the SMP. This gives you a dressy watch and something from the more casual end. The AT is just so versatile. It's arguably the only watch a man would ever need. The Speedy gives you more variety, being a chrono' and having the whole historic thing going on but the SMP is also a fantastic watch and will be great for when you need something water-resistent. Obviously the PO would do the casual bit a little better but it's going to get a little spendy.
Regarding the price hikes, there have been no more since the Swiss franc was pegged to the €uro so I'd be surprised if we see any more for a bit.

Another possibility might be to take the PO and then look to another brand (Longines, for instance) for a dress-ish watch at a lower price.

Great dilemma to have. Good luck.
 

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AT8500, so versatile and could be your 'only' watch and then the SMP auto, tough as old boot and looks good to boot.....also the two are very different.

I don't understand your fear of wearing an AT to work everyday as if this duty is not appropriate for a watch of that quality.....they are bought to be worn, my friend!

... if your watch were a living thing it would want it that way.....wear what you choose as often as you can, doing all sorts of activities, don't baby them, in my experience they are tougher than you think.

I've never understood the threads like. 'Can i wear my watch in the shower' and 'will my diver be ok in the pool?'
 

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Wow...!
How lucky you are in dubai.
For me is option no.2 ! You buy new Po in regular price, and get the smp quartz for free ! and even get one more cheaper watch !
 
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