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OK, so first off I apologize for no pics, I can add some later, but hopefully my description will be enough.

I just purchased, very cheaply I might add (Chrono sticks at 58seconds is why), a beautiful condition 6139-6002 Gold dial Seiko chrono. The dial is a non '5' dial that has 'WATER70mPROOF' at the 9:00 position. However, the caseback is from a 6139-6002 dated 1973. I am trying to figure out if the dial is wrong or the caseback (or both). So I have a few questions and was hoping an expert out there could help me track this one down:

1. Are there any fake 'proof' dials out there?
2. If it is a 'proof' watch, will the movement definitely be a 6139a or could it also be a 6139b. (I can't open the caseback until tonight..)
3. As far as I can gather, very early examples have a cutout above the crown, my watch does not, but I believe there were 'proof' models made that do not have the cutout, can anyone confirm?

Thanks in advance..
 

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There are aftermarket dials out there. whether or not they are proof dials I have yet to determine.

If it is a "Proof" watch it will have a notched case at the crown, it will have a 6139A movement and a "Proof" case back.

There were no "Proof" models without the notch at the crown although there are some "Resist" models with the notched case.

Check out this article I wrote:
https://www.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=287754
 

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Just opened it up and found a 6319B movement so the dial is non original. I will post up a pic later as I have personally never seen a fake proof dial so this could have been added at some point. It is a very high quality if it is fake. I will let the experts decide later.
 
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