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WatchUSeek forums all have the same rules and guidelines. The first rule reads, "Members will be kind and courteous, and respectful to other members and the moderators. No direct or indirect personal attacks or insults of any kind will be allowed. Posts which antagonize, belittle or humiliate other members and/or the moderators will not be tolerated..."

In forums where this is the guideline, why do we have this emoticon ( :-x ) available for use? The emoticon, which is identified as meaning "shut up", is at odds with rules which ask for courteous, civil behavior. Where I come from, telling someone to "shut up" is considered rude and insulting.

I've read posts in the Dive Forum this morning in which the poster used the "shut up" icon repeatedly, and then proceeded to quote other rules regarding the use of Off Topic identifiers.

It's my opnion of course, but allowing the use of the "shut up" emoticon contributes to a coarsening of the exchanges we engage in here. It should be dropped from the emoticon menu.

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Jeff! :-x!

;-)

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Janne


PS: Sorry, I could not resist!
Yes, there are some strange inconsistensies and rules.
It is OK to broadcast the symbols associated with communism or the Soviet Union. But the symbols used by the National Socialists (****s) or :-x:-x:-x:-x Germany are banned.

Edit: Even the program tells me to "shut up" !
 

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If I ever use :-x it's used in the context of 'i'll not say anything' as apposed to the OP not saying anything.

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I think my editing crossed you reply!

I personally never used some symbols, like::-s, :roll:, :-|, :-x, o|.

If I do not agree with a poster, I usually keep it to myself.

Or, if I have an opinion, like in Gansan's Harley Davidson Thread, that I know will upset some posters, I am prepared for the rude comments and answers.
But I always try to be civil, not lose my temper and explain my opinion.
 

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Hi Jeff and thanks for the note. To be honnest this is the first time anyone has said anything about any of our emoticons, and I don't know that any of the staff members have ever interpreted this one to mean shut up. I know Personally I have interpreted to mean something along the lines of I'm biting my tongue, or I'm speechless, or I'll say nothing. Shut up never crossed my mind. Please show us where someone has been using it in that context, as it sounds like a post we might want to read.

I'll make sure that the rest of the mods have a look at this thread and adress any issues that there might be. However don't be surprised if in the end nothing is done, for as I said above, this is the first time in all our years that anyone has brought this up, so I don't know that many folks are interpreting that smilie that way. Thanks again.
 

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I personally never used some symbols, like::-s, :roll:, :-|, :-x, o|.

If I do not agree with a poster, I usually keep it to myself.

But I always try to be civil, not lose my temper and explain my opinion.
I think you and I are alike in that regard. But some folks need a little nudge in the direction of polite discourse - I'm assuming their mommas never instructed them in manners, or maybe they were raised by wolves. :-d

At the very least, I would think it would be a very easy thing to stop making it possible for them to be visibly rude with the emoticon, while at the same time emphasizing that the forum really, truly feels strongly about polite behavior.
 

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Hi Jeff and thanks for the note. To be honnest this is the first time anyone has said anything about any of our emoticons, and I don't know that any of the staff members have ever interpreted this one to mean shut up. I know Personally I have interpreted to mean something along the lines of I'm biting my tongue, or I'm speechless, or I'll say nothing. Shut up never crossed my mind. Please show us where someone has been using it in that context, as it sounds like a post we might want to read.

I'll make sure that the rest of the mods have a look at this thread and adress any issues that there might be. However don't be surprised if in the end nothing is done, for as I said above, this is the first time in all our years that anyone has brought this up, so I don't know that many folks are interpreting that smilie that way. Thanks again.
Hi Gabe, I'll send you the link to the post I noticed in a PM. I don't have any interest in "outing" somebody on the Public Forum - and maybe I am misinterpreting his intent.

As for the icon itself, it certainly seems to me to be an "active" (I'm telling you to shut up) rather than a "passive" (I'm biting my tongue) emoticon. If, when I passed my mouse pointer over the emoticon, it said "biting my tongue" rather than "shut up", I'd interpret it differently.

Either way, thanks for taking the time to answer my question.
 

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I have never though of the intention of using the icon on someone else, just myself, as I'm sure the majority of other people on WUS would interpret the icon's use. As you yourself said, respect and courtesy is important so people will know not to use it on someone else, just as much as someone will know not to swear at another person on the forum.

The way I would use the icon, and I'm sure most people would as well, would be in a manner such as the following:

I was in the mall with my girlfriend the other day and we walked past a watch store. I stopped and said, "That looks nice," and she gave me a look of disbelief and said I had enough watches already. o| :-x
 

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The "shut up" smilie has its uses. We use it to "bleep out" words in the software bad language filter.
I often apply it to myself when maybe I've said too much, or I'm moving into controversial territory.
"My wife thinks it's a good idea to redecorate the basement." :-x
I do agree it's bad manners to apply it to someone else's post, and :roll: is not a good one to apply either.
 

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They're emoticons for goodness sakes. Emoticons, like words mean different things in different situations. It is impossible to determine what :-x and :-s are unless you look at the context of the post or the intent of the poster. Of course I may just be :-s so I'll :-x now.
 

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They're emoticons for goodness sakes. Emoticons, like words mean different things in different situations. It is impossible to determine what :-x and :-s are unless you look at the context of the post or the intent of the poster. Of course I may just be :-s so I'll :-x now.
True enough. But the "shut up" emoticon can be used confrontationally, which most other emoticons cannot. Would you not agree that in both your example ( Of course I may just be :-s so I'll :-x now.) and Ray's ("My wife thinks it's a good idea to redecorate the basement." :-x), the phrase "shut up" could be replaced with "biting my tongue" without changing the meaning of either statement? It's more to the point, is not confrontational in nature and can only be interpreted as having been directed at oneself and not another.
 

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If you wanted to, you could make a lot of the icons confrontational:

:-s => You're crazy

o| => Go smash your head against a wall

<| => Kill him

:p => Go drown yourself

|> => Go stick your thumb up your bottom

:think: => You're lying
 

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If you wanted to, you could make a lot of the icons confrontational:

:-s => You're crazy

o| => Go smash your head against a wall

<| => Kill him

:p => Go drown yourself

|> => Go stick your thumb up your bottom

:think: => You're lying
Well, I think that's a stretch. None of those emoticons' drop down descriptions say "kill him" or "you're lying", etc. But the "shut up" emoticon says "shut up".

If I'm outside the mainstream of public opinion in my interpretation of this phrase, which if used in actual verbal dialogue, couldn't be interpreted in any other way other than as confrontational, then I apologize. I'm just asking you to imagine talking face to face with someone who concludes their remarks to you with the words "shut up". Do you think that person is telling himself to shut up, or telling you to shut up? In spoken language, "shut up" is a conversational command.
 

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If you feel the emoticon is being misused in a particular instance, all you need do is report it to the Mod's panel using the little triangle with "I" in it over there on the left. We'll be glad to look into the situation.
So far in my time here, I haven't had to deal with such a case, but you never know.
 

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I have never though of the intention of using the icon on someone else, just myself,...
|> I agree, I've never thought of using that emoticon on any one but DragonJade either.:-x :-d

Here is my emoticon dictionary.
:-s = What was I thinking? or I don't understand.
o|= I can't believe I did that.
:think:= H'mmm Not quite sure what I think of that.
 

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Is this thread for real? :-x is a comical way to either give yourself or someone else a non-mean sprited jab. Seriously is this thread for real?
 

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I would only ever use the "shut up" emoticon jocundly. E.g., if someone were dissing a make/ model that I like, I might post a long stream of those emoticons, followed by something like "Heresy!" "Burn Him!" then an ellipsis, and then a sentence starting with, "But seriously..."
There are some members here who are intentionally confrontational, but I guess the mods thinks they are civil enough.
 
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