[8505davids]

Great to see Aquastar back and a great looking watch but that L2L..... I know the '63 case style has always been a bit long in the tooth so to speak but with a 51mm L2L your losing a LOT of potential customers before you even start - Aquadive are the same with their 50mm L2. Thats where Doxa score with their 46mm L2L - its not a small watch at 43mm but suits a broad range of wrist sizes....and that means more sales. Why limit the appeal of your products?

Would love to see an updated Seatime and Atoll with some new colours (and sensible L2L) - love my silver Seatime but the blue-grey one is very drab.

Wish you every success with the new venture.

 

[8505davids]

Think you will see more non-limited Deepstars if they sell well - will they be much different from the 'founders edition'?? Yema starts each new model with a 'numbered edition' and then does a normal production run. We all know Doxa's history with its so-called Limited Editions...

I do think Aquastar offers something a little different style wise in the dive watch market - def a hint of Gallic 'flair'. Always dodgy of shelling out for a limited edition only to find that more 'ordinary' versions follow. And that L2L, while no problem over a wetsuit, will be too long for many on-wrist in normal wear - where it while spend the bulk of its wrist time. I notice on the website they just quote the 'length WITHOUT lugs' !!

Attractive watch though.

 

[8505davids]

The information is available on the website. The watch is limited to 300 pieces in each of the colors black, blue and grey. Whether there will be other colors in the future, this depends on many factors that will be determined in the future. I also like to reassure you, you should only be scared of a 50mm diameter watch, but not a 50 long watch unless you have a 6" wrist or less.
BTW, if you got no answer, please check your spam folder because no emails stay unanswered at Synchron. You should also consider livechat or phone to get an instant reply.

There you go - more of the 'Limited Edition' will be produced in finest Doxa tradition if the demand is there (if they sell out) ..... and thats ok as long as you know the score before you order.

I am a little surprised that you feel a 51mm L2L watch will suit a 6" wrist and I'd think many of the smaller wristed on here would raise a brow at that ....I'd say closer to 7" but sloping lugs will help. I'd like to see a pic of one on a 6.5" wrist to split the difference....Its a lot of money for someone to shell out with the possibility it overhangs a wrist.

 

[8505davids]

Bro no one is forcing you to buy it sight unseen. That's a risk YOU take. As for size I have a 6.75 wrist and I have a Tudor BB with same lug to lugs as the Aquastar. The Tudor is 41mm and this is 40.5. There is no overhang. You're probably ok with a 6.5 inch wrist. Even 6 Inch If it has a flat shape.

Don't think I was complaining about being 'forced' to buy it sight unseen - merely commenting on the fact that some may shy away from ordering an expensive watch with a reasonably long L2L if there is any possibility it may not suit them - I realise we all have different views about what fits our wrist and what doesn't. As you say, thats the risk a buyer takes and that was my point - some may prefer not to take it if there is any doubt in their minds. 'Probably ok' is not a chance I'd take with a few thousand pounds - a Tudor I can at least try on. As a manufacturer of a product at a price point where there is likely relatively limited demand I'd not wish to potentially limit my market further - but thats just MHO. And its MHO that there is no way a 51mm L2L will suit a 6" wrist - I'd sooner he just said it was a stylistic choice.

To me a good commercial design takes that out of the equation. Why only quote length without lugs - you ever seen that on a website before? As I said - lets see a pic of it so we can all judge if its the claim....there does seem to be a lack of wrist shots of it in general. I remember Aramar did two wrist shots on their website for a watch they were selling (something like a 6.5" and a 7.5" I think or thereabouts) and it was only subGBP400 - shame the watch turned out to be crap.

My piece said though - no more on this thread from me!

 

[8505davids]

I hope it's okay to post this link:
http://instagr.am/p/CGU5d7MHxqj/ I don't know his wrist size but he shows some other wristshots of popular watches and he wears the new Deepstar on his latest post. So maybe you can have an idea of it's size. I pre ordered the grey one.

Worn over the wrist bone?! Damn, wasn't going to post again on this thread but couldn't resist - its one way to add a good bit to your wrist size with a bigger watch I guess. Good looker though, I'm thinking they will sell pretty well - good price in the US but VAT in Europe adds quite a bit.

 

[8505davids]

The benchmarks for millions of watch buyers worldwide:

Rolex Datejust II 116334: 40.5mm, 51mm Lug-to-Lug
Rolex Deepsea Sea-Dweller 116660: 44mm, 53mm Lug-to-Lug
Rolex Yacht-Master II 116680: 44mm, 51mm Lug-to-Lug
Rolex Sky-Dweller 326135: 42mm, 51mm Lug-to-Lug
Rolex Explorer II 216570: 42mm, 51mm Lug-to-Lug

Welll - you forgot to quote all the Submariners with sub 50mm L2Ls.... and of course Seikos Skx007 , at 42 x 46, which probably sold many times over all the Rolex Subs put together. Then of course all the Doxas you sold with their 46mm L2Ls ..... I'd agree that the 44mm Rolexs you quote should have a 50mm plus L2L but the Aquastar is 4mm narrower but same L2L. The last versions of this case I've seen issued have all been around 40mm but with l2ls of around 48mm, including Seikos 62MAS reissues. Now we can all quote various watches to suit our arguement but I'd think there'd be far more 40mm cases nowadays with sub 50mm L2Ls than the other way about - but the watch is what it is and very attractive just with a limiting factor. Next to the new Doxa C-Graph it looks positively svelte! Mind you, although it has a 45mm case its L2L is 49mm.

 

[8505davids]

Sir, this post was in reply to a specific comment that claimed there is no other watch with similar proportions, So, I assume the Oyster date II probably isn't what he considers a popular watch!
it was not intended to point to which watch models and brands are out there with different L2L sizes and proportions

I'm not really sure what it was intended to point out, especially quoting the larger case sizes ...one 40mm Rolex had 50mm plus L2L so that combination can't be argued with? - of course there are some watches with smaller cases but longer lugs (several had already been quoted by other posters) - just that its a (relatively perhaps?) rare combination currently. The size combination has been commented on in most reviews.

Now don't get me wrong - I like the watch and the lugs don't look out of place on a suitable wrist - as its quite tall as well I'm guessing the longer length helps 'spread' that out a bit . They certainally don't look long and pointy like the O&W cases.