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How a Star Was Re-Born, a Letter from Rick Marei on Aquastar

It's good to be back, even though I was never actually gone...

For those who don't know me, my name is Rick Marei, and for almost 20 years, WatchuSeek was my 2nd home, as it was from these very pages that I brought the DOXA brand to life. I particularly enjoyed the early days of online watch collecting here, and even since social media has appeared, WatchUseek has always been home for me and hundreds of thousands of fellow watch enthusiasts. I'd like to offer a special thanks to everyone here, the old veterans, and the new Watchuseekers, and thanks to WatchUseek for the trip down memory lane some 20 years ago when I created the first official watch brand forum on WatchuSeek and therein made my first post about the release of the first DOXA SUB re-edition.

This is my story.

In 1999, I searched the phone book for the makers of Aquastar, dialed the number and spoke to a gentleman by the name of Gaston Seinet. I enquired about spare parts for my Benthos collection and one thing led to another, and soon we were talking about how the Internet will change the world and whether he would be interested in a collaboration, where I would help create an ecommerce business model for Aquastar. A few conversations later, I was extremely disappointed when Mr. Seinet said something that I won't forget: "I am a sailor and a boat with two captains is destined to sink." Mr. Seinet added, "we are based in Geneva and you are based in Vienna, a collaboration on such a distance won't work." Mr. Seinet finished, "we will build our website and e-commerce offering and if we need your help, we will contact you." My disappointment in that moment was devastating, not knowing how this would end up 20 years later...

A few months later, I was speaking to the sales manager at DOXA about a similar e-commerce concept, and suddenly, ten years had passed, and although I never forgot my Benthos, I didn't have any time or resources to accommodate another brand. My professional life during those years was consumed with the re-birth and development of the DOXA SUB, which would soon go on to achieve the global notoriety it deserved.

Fast forward to 2019, where, in addition to DOXA, I'd revived a collection of other interesting watch brands once lost to the annuls of history - brands like Aquadive, ISOfrane, and most recently, the legendary TROPIC Strap. It was at this time that I made the choice to return DOXA to its owners so they could continue the journey that we started together in 2001. And it was here, where my thoughts returned to the Benthos, and to Aquastar from the beginning of my journey, some 20 years previous.

Aquastar has actually maintained a small e-commerce presence since 2001, where they focused primarily on Regatta sailing watches, which continued one facet of Aquastar's original catalog. Under the helm of Marc and Gaston Seinet since 1983, the Seinets created and developed several generations of Regatta watches. Marc, being a sailor and extremely knowledgeable in both fields, helped Aquastar become "the regatta watch company" until 2018.

I reconnected with Mr. Seinet in late 2019 and our conversation brought us to a point where we decided to rebuild the brand's historical presence and use the experience that we both have in the fields of watchmaking, as well as a shared love for sailing and diving.

Unfortunately, Mr. Seinet ultimately realized that he would not have enough time or resources to dedicate to this project. So, I needed resources to replace Mr. Seinet's share. That's where the Synchron Group stepped in and together in 2020, we made it our goal to resurrect Aquastar and bring it back to its former glory. We signed an agreement to acquire the brand, which included all the old stock, vintage tooling, along with reams of Aquastar's historical patents and blueprints. For all of this, I owe a debt of gratitude to Mr. Seinet, who I found to be one of the most intelligent and eloquent watch personalities I have met in 25 years in the watch business. In addition to being pleasant to deal with, he possesses a great sense of humor and fairness, and deep knowledge of the watch market.

So it is here, where we now begin to tell the last great untold story of the Swiss watch world. And I'm honored you've chosen to join me on this new journey.

Visit Home - Aquastar dive watches for more information about the 2020 Deepstar

- Rick Marei, Synchron

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Discussion Starter · #26 · (Edited)
Dear RedViola, first off, thank you for your encouraging words. I am deeply grateful to all members and to WatchUseek as the platform that enabled this type of discussion. None of the brands that I brought back over the last 20 years would have ever come that far without you and without WatchUseek. I am proud of my team and without them, I would never have achieved a fraction of this success.

For decades the Swiss high-end movement maker La Joux-Perret stood in the shadow of the brands they manufacture customized movements for, you would be surprised to know how many high-end watches are powered by a LJP caliber that they call their own MANUFACTURE movement.

The Caliber that powers the 2020 Deepstar is based on the LJP 7773, adapted to the functions of the 2020 Deepstar. While the 7773 is physically compatible to the ETA 7753, which means that a watch case, hands, pushers and dials designed for an ETA 7753, can also be used for a LJP 7773, otherwise they don't have much in common.
The LJP 7773 is a refined caliber, extremely well finished and doesn't have any plastic parts, equipped with a column wheel that makes the operation of the pushers crispy and smooth, while it is a gem, it doesn't come with the alures, its service intervals are like any other ETA caliber and the service costs are as low as a common ETA caliber.

I like to emphasize that there is no lack of transparency intended and there is no mystery here of any kind. The brand relaunch and the 2020 Deepstar release were the major talking point in the community and that's maybe why the movement topic received less attention. Aquastar is proud to be a partner of LJP and you are welcome to ask any questions. I attached a picture of the base movement.

Like its predecessor, the 2020 Deepstar was originally designed for strap use, it wasn't until a few weeks ago, that a decision was made to offer a stainless steel bracelet. The bracelet is a classic separate beads of rice bracelet with integrated endlinks. The bracelet is $189 but will be made available to everyone who preordered the 2020 Deepstar at $139.00.

Thank you!
Rick
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Yes, "Limited Editions" are one of the dumbest things a watch company could do. Look at Doxa - they have reached the "Limit" of their Limited Editions, running themselves right out of business because they cannot keep selling popular pieces - they were limited. Short sighted, unlike Rolex which keeps on with successful models for decades, and it has rewarded them.
Yes, "Limited Editions" are one of the dumbest things a watch company could do. Look at Doxa - they have reached the "Limit" of their Limited Editions, running themselves right out of business because they cannot keep selling popular pieces - they were limited. Short sighted, unlike Rolex which keeps on with successful models for decades, and it has rewarded them.
I totally agree, except for the 2020 Deepstar founders edition that is meant to mark the rebirth of the brand in 2020, which will -due its limitation- be rewarding to those who trusted the brand and invested their hard earned money in Aquastar.
 

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Does this mean more Deepstars in the future?
The 2020 Deepstar founders edition is limited to 300 pieces each color.
And as Aquastar has created a line of watch families based on their patents from 1962 until 1978, what the future will bring, will depend solely on the feedback from the community, whether and when a model 60, 63, Benthos, Regate, Seatime, Atoll, Airstar or Aquastart will be re-issued.
All I can say right now is that I promise -as we've done this before on this very forum-, that we will listen and will recreate what the community will asks us to. I cannot tell you more than this right now. Finally I like to thank you for your interest in our brands over the past 8 years.
 

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Think you will see more non-limited Deepstars if they sell well - will they be much different from the 'founders edition'?? Yema starts each new model with a 'numbered edition' and then does a normal production run. We all know Doxa's history with its so-called Limited Editions...

I do think Aquastar offers something a little different style wise in the dive watch market - def a hint of Gallic 'flair'. Always dodgy of shelling out for a limited edition only to find that more 'ordinary' versions follow. And that L2L, while no problem over a wetsuit, will be too long for many on-wrist in normal wear - where it while spend the bulk of its wrist time. I notice on the website they just quote the 'length WITHOUT lugs' !!

Attractive watch though.
I don't feel a gallic flair here, not sure where to get it from :unsure:.
And in regards of the watch size, a skin diver case has more of a rectangular shape, and feels less substantial than the numbers in its specs. the 2020 Deepstar wears very well on 6.0" and above wrist, and looks amazing and more like any regular 40mm watch. If the wrist is <6", than probably the Deepstar will have an overhang that will make it look big, but this is also a matter of style and taste. And considering that the average men's wrist is 7", the 2020 Deepstar is probably the sweet spot for the average wrist size.

In order to picture this clearer, you should picture the skin diver case as a rectangular case. While a 50mm diameter and a 50mm square watch are massive, a skindiver and a rectangular watch with 50mm wear much smaller. Otherwise, please wait and make your judgement when you see more wrist shots and read owner's reviews
 

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Discussion Starter · #55 · (Edited)
And If you ask via the chat on aquastar.de ... the say it's limited.

And if you ask if they produce more deepstars after the 900 pieces ... then you get no answer ...
The information is available on the website. The watch is limited to 300 pieces in each of the colors black, blue and grey. Whether there will be other colors in the future, this depends on many factors that will be determined in the future. I also like to reassure you, you should only be scared of a 50mm diameter watch, but not a 50 long watch unless you have a 6" wrist or less.
BTW, if you got no answer, please check your spam folder because no emails stay unanswered at Synchron. You should also consider livechat or phone to get an instant reply.
 

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There you go - there will be more produced if the demand is there (if they sell out) and thats ok as long as you know the score before you order - in all likelihood it wont remain a small production limited edition.

I am a little suprised at you feel a 51mm L2L watch will suit a 6" wrist ....I'd say closer to over 7" but sloping lugs will help. I'd like to see a pic of one on a 6.5" wrist to split the difference....
There you go - there will be more produced if the demand is there (if they sell out) and thats ok as long as you know the score before you order - in all likelihood it wont remain a small production limited edition.

I am a little suprised at you feel a 51mm L2L watch will suit a 6" wrist ....I'd say closer to over 7" but sloping lugs will help. I'd like to see a pic of one on a 6.5" wrist to split the difference....
As I mentioned in my previous post; the 3 main colors, black blue and grey are limited to 300 pieces each. Whether there will be a new niche color (small edition) in the future, it depends on many other factors, that are to be determined and evaluated, but the 3 main colors are limited to 300 pieces.
 

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Got it. Then they should refund any amount we have to pay to FedEx for import fees when they communicated the watch ships from US for US customers, which was my understanding as well and part of the decision to buy. I'll know next week how much the fees are once FedEx emails the bill for payment in order to release the shipment for delivery. I've bought LE Panerai watches from Firenze directly in the past and shipped via FedEx as well, and it always had a nice hefty import fee attached that was collected by FedEx.

@Synchron ;
Hi,

Aquastar started shipping earlier than expected and wanted to give customers the advantage! so instead of shipping to the US and then from within the US to the final destination, the whole first batch will ship from Europe, Hope this is alright for everyone who is getting his watch earlier than they expected!

No taxes, duties or any additional fees will be incurred when the watches are delivered to a US address, Everything is taken care of of and prepaid by SYNCHRON for US customers.

Synchron has been in this business for 23 years, and have shipped tens of thousands of watches from Europe to the US. Synchron is 100% committed to the above statement. But just in the unlikely case, that some some lazy customs broker doesn't read well or doesn't read at all, and any US based customer is asked to pay anything, please DON'T! and immediately call Aquastar's US 800 number and they will take care of the situation immediately. Every day for the past 20 years, Synchron has been shipping watches from Europe to the USA, from Doxa, Aquadive and traser, also ISOfrane and Tropic straps, and they know their business well...

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Why do USA customers get imported taxes paid but not eu customers?
This is a good question, different tax rates and laws in the US and Europe, US duties are almost negligible compared to 20% EU VAT for the merchants. On the other hand, and unlike other companies, Synchron uses the USD for billing EU customers too, which gives EU based customers a bigger advantage due to the weak USD towards the Euro. So at the end, it is entirely balanced
 

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Not very thick considering. There is a bit of back-n-forth play with the hands when adjusting the time. Not sure if that's normal or not. I do like the constant second at 9 o'clock but wish it had lume.
Yes, completely natural for this caliber, in fact all LJP chronograph 777 calibers have this type of motion.
 

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No. What they're talking about is the proportions seem out of whack. 40mm case but 50mm lug to lug? Name one other watch where this is the case (no pun intended)?

It's just the style, you have extra long lugs with this one.
The benchmarks for millions of watch buyers worldwide:

Rolex Datejust II 116334: 40.5mm, 51mm Lug-to-Lug
Rolex Deepsea Sea-Dweller 116660: 44mm, 53mm Lug-to-Lug
Rolex Yacht-Master II 116680: 44mm, 51mm Lug-to-Lug
Rolex Sky-Dweller 326135: 42mm, 51mm Lug-to-Lug
Rolex Explorer II 216570: 42mm, 51mm Lug-to-Lug
 

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Welll - you forgot to quote all the Submariners with sub 50mm L2Ls.... and of course Seikos Skx007 , at 42 x 46, which sold many times over all the Rolexs put together. Then of course all the Doxas you sold with their 46mm L2Ls ..... I'd agree that the 44mm Rolexs you quote should have a 50mm plus L2L but the Aquastar is 4mm narrower but same L2L. The last versions of this case I've seen issued have all been around 40mm but with l2ls of around 48mm, including Seikos 62MAS reissues. Now we can all quote various watches to suit our arguement but I'd think there'd be far more 40mm cases nowadays with sub 50mm L2Ls than the other way about - but the watch is what it is and very attractive just with a limiting factor. Next to the new Doxa C-Graph its positively svelte!
Sir, this post was in reply to a specific comment that claimed there is no other watch with similar proportions, So, I assume the Oyster date II probably isn't what he considers a popular watch!
it was not intended to point to which watch models and brands are out there with different L2L sizes and proportions
 

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I'm not really sure what it was intended to point out, especially quoting the larger case sizes ...one 40mm Rolex had 50mm plus L2L so that combination can't be argued with? - of course there are some watches with smaller cases but longer lugs (several had already been quoted by other posters) - just that its a (relatively perhaps?) rare combination currently. The size combination has been commented on in most reviews.
The answer was for this question, that's all, "Name one other watch where this is the case (no pun intended)? "
 
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