Oh boy. Let it begin.

 

I've heard T-Touches are phenomenal...

 

 

gbd-h1000 is the closest you can get. Garmin instinct is a gshock that casio never built

 

First ask yourself why you are looking at the Garmin. If it’s for the sleep tracking, HR monitor, etc., then just do like I did: buy a small Fitbit to wear during sleep and/or exercise, and wear a G the rest of the time. If it’s for the GPS/ABC/Solar features, then you’re going to find a Casio to suit your needs.

 

GWG-1000s/2000s eat Garmin Instincts for breakfast..

 

How?

 

As been said G-Squad 1000 model. Mind it bigger, slower and has less functions. On other hand it has 200m WR and it's G-Shock.
On other hand only negative screen while on Garmin you can choose. List goes on....

Despite all wind around subject recently....
There is only one model out there. It should be overdue for replacement though. So unless you in a hurry or love it... i will pick either Garmin or wait for replacement.

 

I just realized. Size of 1000 and Rengebeast is dictated by biggest solar array on a digital Casio.
Probably one sector of it equal to what you find in 5610.

 

Not yet. Casio is working on a Gshock which will replace the Apple Watch.


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They are not competing with Apple so I don't see that happening.

 

Just get 'em both. Gs ain't Garmins, Garmins ain't Gs.

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From a feature standpoint, there’s nothing that will give you the Instincts feature set at this time, especially from Casio. Casio isn’t a innovative company, it’s more fashion IMO (re-used modules in different skins).

You said that the Instinct is almost the perfect Watch, what don’t you like?

 

On bit broader topic. How many members here have 1000 model?
Is there are any updates to firmware?
How generally Casio is with these things.
I know how things with Samsung. Heard things about Garmin but Casio is a mystery.
So far the one and only thing out there is dated to 2021 and promises some stability and security updates.
As IT i can say when company has nothing to say it often branded as stability and performance updates.
So, Casio statement is not informative at all.
Anyone here experienced these?

 

You won't be able to find a Casio yet that has all the app features of Garmin. That being said, whatever Casio you buy now, will still be usable in 15 years. You'll have to buy a number of Garmins to keep up with that.

Now before the Garmin crowd loses their mind, just look at the disposability of modern smartwatches. You may be able to use that watch with the Garmin app for a few years of updates, but that app is eventually going to outdistance your watch. They will not continue to make it backward compatible for that long. The phone manufacturers keep upgrading operating systems and eventually that smartwatch HAS to be replaced to make it compatible with current phone operating systems and Garmin apps.

If you are looking for a G-Shock. Start with a solar/Bluetooth square. Use it with the Casio app. If you need heart rate monitoring, as posted above, get a cheap Fitbit or alternative. Step tracking is pretty useless as a whole on a watch. I can bang my damn wrist on a desk 5000 times and the watch will tell me I got somewhere in the range of that, without ever having walked a single step. It is an unreliable technology. Get your ass out of the chair, and walk at a pace that keeps you in your zone 1 and 2 heart rate for around 20 minutes. That continuous walk will do more good than you trying to count your steps in a day. Maybe increase the time as you get more comfortable or have time for it. Please go outside and do this as the sunshine will work wonders on your wellbeing.

 

You won't be able to find a Casio yet that has all the app features of Garmin. That being said, whatever Casio you buy now, will still be usable in 15 years. You'll have to buy a number of Garmins to keep up with that.

Now before the Garmin crowd loses their mind, just look at the disposability of modern smartwatches. You may be able to use that watch with the Garmin app for a few years of updates, but that app is eventually going to outdistance your watch. They will not continue to make it backward compatible for that long. The phone manufacturers keep upgrading operating systems and eventually that smartwatch HAS to be replaced to make it compatible with current phone operating systems and Garmin apps.

If you are looking for a G-Shock. Start with a solar/Bluetooth square. Use it with the Casio app. If you need heart rate monitoring, as posted above, get a cheap Fitbit or alternative. Step tracking is pretty useless as a whole on a watch. I can bang my damn wrist on a desk 5000 times and the watch will tell me I got somewhere in the range of that, without ever having walked a single step. It is an unreliable technology. Get your ass out of the chair, and walk at a pace that keeps you in your zone 1 and 2 heart rate for around 20 minutes. That continuous walk will do more good than you trying to count your steps in a day. Maybe increase the time as you get more comfortable or have time for it. Please go outside and do this as the sunshine will work wonders on your wellbeing.

Fate of GBD-F1000 will be same as Garmin. It uses same battery type, many functions are software dependant and even design ideas are same - use slower internals to provide better battery life. It is smart watch in terms of disposability or ability to be used as stand alone as Garmin. Comparing GBD or Instinct alike to regular square is like mini 3D printer vs tool set. Yes tool set will be useful in decades to come (doubtful considering made in China nature of modern tools especially cheap ones) and 3D printer is less useful without computer.... but you can do much more with it.
Totally agree with you step tracking "fitness" features of some Casio models are useless. Though they very cheap to implement and watches with rudimentary and slightly less rudimentary step tracking were around for quite a time and you can get them for peanuts.
Starting with very Casio look alike (no solar though)

Last one is whooping 21.99$ at Walmart...

 

Casio is horrible at GPS watches and I’m OK with that. Get the Garmin for any serious outdoor activities.

 

i guessing you mean GPS route tracking which means youre referring to the one G they made with it, the gprb. so they do a lacklusture but modest first attempt, not really the same as a sweeping generalisation like theyve been doing it for a decade like garmin
its like saying garmin is horrible at solar 😅

 

I have both Casio and Garmin. I view my Casios as "watches", and some of them are more than 30 years old, still functioning perfectly.

I view my Garmins as "devices", although technically, they do offer watchlike features, and if I chose to do so, I could use them as my primary watches. However, I use them for things such as step tracking, sleep tracking, pulse rate monitoring, GPS tracking hiking and bicycle rides. While it would be nice if they lasted indefinitely, I don't really expect them to be useable 30 years from now. My Vivofit 3 does have a replaceable battery, but the Instinct does not, and eventually, it will likely fail to hold a charge. Both use the Garmin Connect app, and I don't know how many years the app will be backward compatible to include those two devices. There are probably any number of Garmin devices now in people's hands that are no longer supported.

On my desktop computer at home, I just now had to install a new operating system because my old OS (about 7 years old) would no longer support the latest viewers for some online games I play. I needed the new viewers, so I had to update the OS if I wanted to keep playing.

Some form of this scenario will likely play out with my Garmins at some point, even if they still function, they likely will not be useable because the app won't support them any longer.

 

I have both Casio and Garmin. I view my Casios as "watches", and some of them are more than 30 years old, still functioning perfectly.

I view my Garmins as "devices", although technically, they do offer watchlike features, and if I chose to do so, I could use them as my primary watches. However, I use them for things such as step tracking, sleep tracking, pulse rate monitoring, GPS tracking hiking and bicycle rides. While it would be nice if they lasted indefinitely, I don't really expect them to be useable 30 years from now. My Vivofit 3 does have a replaceable battery, but the Instinct does not, and eventually, it will likely fail to hold a charge. Both use the Garmin Connect app, and I don't know how many years the app will be backward compatible to include those two devices. There are probably any number of Garmin devices now in people's hands that are no longer supported.

On my desktop computer at home, I just now had to install a new operating system because my old OS (about 7 years old) would no longer support the latest viewers for some online games I play. I needed the new viewers, so I had to update the OS if I wanted to keep playing.

Some form of this scenario will likely play out with my Garmins at some point, even if they still function, they likely will not be useable because the app won't support them any longer.

Support is an issue, but Garmin is actually good at it. Better than Casio at least.
I had 12 years old Garmin which was still supported (disintegrated strap ended it's useful life and due a age there was no point in doing anything about it). It even got some minor firmware update 10 years after to include some obscure time zone on some pacific island. On other hand i have first ever Casio BT watch which neve got Andorid support (promised) and iOS support is long dead. First models of Casio BT G-shocks are useful but all BT functionality is dead. That more or less fate of these watches.

You absolutely right in not equalizing Garmin to Casio since they are wearables and watches. Which are different. Once my friend told me don't treat your car as you treat your house. Cars are like clothing, You buy them, enjoy them and they wear off. Same could be said about wearables. They wear off you buy better one. I don't cry about my running shoes been worn. I proud of them been worn. Sure there are people who collect running shoes and they treat them differently.

Same with these. Despite all the talk about heirlooming, watches in masses are treated like this too. You buy them, wear and they go into drawer. Quartz revolution and affordability made them if not disposable but momentary things. You can't find many Casio watches of the past exactly because of that. They never were built to be used for decades and never been treated like this. Yes they can outlast intended use time frame but that not how people treat them.

Many plastic parts in watches have limited time span. And advent of bio plastics make me wonder how long these will last? like Protrek 6000 bio plastic.

 

I'm a bit of a fitness nerd and I like Garmin stuff for that. I have an Instinct (OG) for workouts and a Vivosmart wrist tracker to count daily steps, HR etc when I wear a regular watch. They do about the same thing.

I also own more G Shocks than I care to admit. It's apples and oranges. As stated by others above, the Garmins are technology with limited (if extended) shelf life. Never quite saw the logic of buying $500+ wearable tech. But if you're going to do so, I vote Garmin. You can buy an Instinct these days that can go 10 days of before a recharge for less than $100. And they are rugged as hell. Not G Shock rugged, but I've banged my Instinct around in ways that would kill an Apple watch.

The G's, however, will probably outlive me. But it's not a binary choice - it's why a lot of us own quartz and mechanical, radios and TV's and bicycles and cars.

Both the Garmins and G Shocks are great pieces of kit. You can own and love both.

 

Both the Garmins and G Shocks are great pieces of kit. You can own and love both.

....me wondering if you're allowed to say that Garmin is great - in this forum...?? Isn't that against G forum rules or something?

I'm KIDDING!!! Not serious. I like to joke around. I don't personally own a Garmin but have nothing against them.

 

I own a GS and a Garmin Instinct Solar Tactical, and they are two different beasts. My life is spent outdoors in the mountains (when not at school) working in archaeology. The GS is great for taking a severe beating, but the Garmin is awesome for GPS tracking, location plotting, weather, tracking hiking intensity, etc. I like being able to track the weather, and even without cell service, tracking the barometric pressure has been helpful as storms come in sometimes with little warning. I know some GSs do this as well.

I can get one to three weeks on a charge with the Instinct, depending on what level of GPS and other activities I am tracking. If I don't track activities, the battery lasts much longer. The solar charging is helpful, and it stays charged well if I do not use many features. I also use it at the gym to track stair-stepper exercise sessions, rowing, strength training, and yoga. I have yet to use the jumpmaster feature or the night vision mode (it has been almost a decade since I last wore night vision), but if you need them, I bet they are helpful. When I was in the military, I used a Garmin Foretrex 401, which was great as it worked in armored vehicles when our issued ones did not. The only thing I didn't like about it was that it took AA batteries and drained them pretty fast. The Instinct Solar solves that problem. And when it comes time to recharge it, the battery charges very fast.

I like my GS and wear it a lot. Mine has a pedometer, which allows me to estimate the distance traveled when looking for new sites. It is simple and rugged, and the battery life is excellent. But if I had to choose between the two, I would take the Garmin every time. It can also take a beating and is more comfortable to wear than the GS. If you go into places with little to no cell service frequently or like to track your hikes and journeys (as well as fitness tracking or plotting old mining sites), I can't imagine you will find anything better than the Garmin. But to each their own.

 

I have a Tissot T Touch Connect Solar and it is indeed phenomenal. Titanium and looks as at home under a work shirt as it does on a hike.
I really like the compass which works great and much better than the Protrek PRW-6600Y which I wear often and love (similar module to some popular ABC G-Shocks).
For sleep tracking - a serious issue for me - I wear at night the Withings Scanwatch Horizon. I don't wear this except at night but it is medically certified and covers the required HR, ECG (with atrial fibrillation detection), SO2, breathing disturbances, etc. It comes with a steel bracelet which is awful, so I use the rubber strap which is also in the box.
There is no 'one' best watch - think what you need - Outdoorsman? Sports tracking? Health monitoring? Rugged looking? Office wearable? Two (or in my case three) watches may be required to cover all bases.
Cheers

 

Ah, another T-Touch.

 

Sorry forgot the pic

 

Thanks for your insight

 

Any G-Shock alternative for Garmin Instinct solar 2?

Short answer: No
Long answer: Not even by a long shot

 

Get the Garmin (if Garmin has all the functionality that you are looking for).

As much as I love my G-Shocks, no model even come close to what Garmin is doing with GPS functionality and Ant+/BT connectivity.

I will always own (many) G-Shocks, but I will also always own at least one Garmin for its GPS / Navi / Sensor connectivities.

 

Just buy the garmin instinct solar 2 already and stop spamming this forum as a form of therapy.

Once you have an instinct 2 solar on your wrist, maybe you’ll calm down.

 

I still remember many threads on F2 where people asked for indestructible mechanical watch capable of surviving some crazy shock, temperature and chemical attack but refused to put any digital on their wrist. Also, many where digital stopwatch is a big no no despite all convenience it brings. It is a forum thing.
Current case is not that extreme.

 

Any Garmin alternative to the Ani-Frog?

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Any Garmin alternative to the Ani-Frog?

I appreciate your rhetorical question, but obviously the answer is no. Just like Toyota doesn't offer an alternative to the Bugatti Chiron. Toyota makes a myriad of vehicles to suit virtually any/every common use case, while Bugatti makes cars that only do a few things well (cost a ton, go fast), but DAMN do they do them well! Garmin makes a watch for just about everybody, from your grandma who needs to monitor her blood oxygen/pulse and have a bunch of different customized alarms to remind her to take her meds to pretty much all of the world's most elite adventure athletes, while G-Shock makes a bunch of watches that are (and look) really, really, REALLY tough (but are honestly overpriced and pretty weak on the features side).

These G-Shock vs. Garmin threads were interesting to me a few years ago when I had literally hundreds of G-Shocks in my watch collection, but full disclosure, my Garmin Fenix 7X Solar Sapphire has pretty much cured me of my watch addiction. Still own a bunch of G-Shocks, but never seem to wear them. That said, two points I think might be relevant to the discussion, as they were raised in many posts on this thread.

Battery Life: Modern rechargeable batteries like the ones in newer Garmins, new cell phones, etc. can generally take ~800-1000 charge cycles before you see any appreciable loss in capacity. I have had several solar Garmins and use the hell out them with tons of GPS tracking, health monitoring, etc. and usually get at least three weeks on a charge. Let's trim those numbers by quite a bit and say that the battery is dunzo at 500 charges and you only get two weeks per charge. That means the battery in a newer solar Garmin should be good for at least 19 years before it is killed off by discharging and recharging. Look online and you will see plenty of folks still using their Garmin Fenix 1, 2, and 3 models without much loss in battery life. Pro Tip: If you use a solar Garmin like a G-Shock (i.e., no advanced health metrics, not much GPS tracking, etc.) the battery life indicator on solar charging alone turns into an infinity symbol; you will literally never plug it in to charge.

Software Support: This is one where Garmin really shines. See the link below for a video of DC Rainmaker using a Garmin released in 2006 with the current version of Garmin Connect. Garmin supports their legacy products like no other consumer tech company in the world, full stop. Now compare that to Casio's current sea of apps that kinda, sorta, mostly work right, sometimes. That is of course if you have the right Casio app for your watch, because there are a TON of them. And also your watch is fairly new, because if you were foolish enough to buy into the first line of Bluetooth G-Shocks like I was, Casio only supported the necessary app (G-Shock+) for about three years, and it was kicked off all the app stores for not being security compliant within five years of the watches' initial release. The app for my first five Bluetooth G-Shocks died before the batteries did. Indeed, Casio sold BNIB GB-5600 and GB6900 variants for several years AFTER there was no app available to connect them to anything.

So for anyone still reading, why do I generally choose to wear my Garmins over my G-Shocks? Honestly, they're just much better at the "watch" part of a watch. I can customize my screens almost infinitely and switch between positive, negative, and multicolored displays at will, I can run tons of different timers consecutively (some make noise, some vibrate, some do both), I can have a bunch of alarms that only go off on certain days of the week (all of which are snooze alarms), I have a killer vibration alert, I have a stopwatch that actually saves lap times, I have all the custom time zones I care about on one screen, I can see local times for twilight and moon rise/set, I can get alerts for time before sunset, I can actually get REAL, LOCAL, and ACCURATE tide data, etc., etc., etc. And when I can get a BNIB Garmin Instinct Solar for <$200 any day of the week, why anyone would pay more than that for a GW-9400 (of which I have owned over a dozen) baffles me.

TL;DR: Garmin and Casio are very different companies selling very different products. Buy whichever one you like best.

 

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