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Came in here to look find out some info about Blancpain but was mightily confused by the mention of Sea-Gull here :D

Well my username is correct - I'm a fan.

I'm not sure people know of the "high-end" Sea-Gull watches that are produced and sold already - as in the ST9100G ($55,000 USD - minute repeater), ST9100GD ($68,000 USD - minute repeater with erotic movement on the caseback - just like those Blancpain minute repeaters(!)) and ST9250 for around $210,000 USD (tourbillon, minute repeater and perpetual calendar).

For non-Chinese speakers there's a good article on the watches here (as well as the master craftsman who makes it):
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://www.chinahorologe.com/zt/zbds1/yzb.html&prev=search

Now if I had $55,000 would I buy a new ST9100G for the minute repeater? I'd definitely check out what else is available at that price - though I understand new Patek minute repeaters start at around $250,000? So it would be a cheap minute repeater at least.

I don't remember what their gyrotourbillon costs - but here's a video of me checking out their minute repeater in the flesh during a factory tour:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcP8_cz8Uo8
Apologies in advance for background noise - but at least you get to hear a Sea-Gull minute repeater (the one you hear has the erotic movement so couldn't get a clear picture of that in action(!)), see a micro-rotor tourbillon, double tourbillon and gyrotourbillon (all available for purchase if so inclined).
Great info...I didn't realize they made movements in this range. - I would imagine as long as they still make $20 movements as well, they'll have a hard time being honored among the elite
 

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On the one hand I can understand that - it would be like VW making the Phaeton - a $120,000 (back in 2002) luxury car :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Phaeton - that looks like a $30,000 Passat from back then.

It's why Seiko makes the $20 movements, but then tiers itself into Grand Seiko and Credor for higher end stuff.
You could argue the Swatch group itself is that "tiering" in action from Swatch/Flik-Flak at the bottom to Blancpain, Breguet, Jacquet Droz etc. at the top - if it was all called Swatch then despite a Breguet level movement in a Swatch branded watch perhaps people might not regard them as well.

So maybe Sea-Gull needs an equivalent "Grand Sea-Gull" or "Credor-Gull" to help distinguish its higher end stuff from the basic movements that it makes. Right now though their business strategy seems to be still in the lower cost movements - they don't necessarily want to compete in the minute repeater/perpetual calendar market, just to show that they can make them if they want to - similar to the VW Phaeton...
 

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I use them to build watches from scratch. You can buy the movements straight from ebay and build your own watch. I have been pleased with the results. That being said it can't compete with in-house movements.
 
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