Swiss standards I may have anywhere I like, what I can't do is stamp 'Swiss Made' on what I make,Without as law defining it, there is no perception to be had. On this point it appears we will not agree. Again you don't have to be born in Switzerland or be in Switzerland to have Swiss standards as you seem to believe.
And you know for a fact that these parts are made in China, and that the issues with those parts are specifically because they were made in China? You say they should be one piece and not welded on - you do understand this is not a manufacturing decision, but a design decision, right? So the fact that they are not one piece was a decision made by designers in Switzerland, and has nothing to do with where the part was manufactured.
Every brand has issues at one time or another. The people who make these watches (no matter where they are located) are human and this means errors and omissions will happen. This is why companies offer warranties on their products. Do you believe that if all parts and work were done in Switzerland (and nothing was made in China) all of these problems would disappear? If so that is more than a bit naïve...
The company I worked for also made steel - the alloy steel we used in our own products and sold to others.
Making steel is a process that involves following a recipe. Steel is made in batches, and while a melt is taking place samples are taken and analyzed in real time, and changes made to the recipe to get the desired outcome. Steel standards have tolerances for a reason - look up the composition of 316L or 904L (a.k.a. Rolex magical steel) and you will see ranges of percentages for the various elements. As long as they are in the accepted ranges, the steel is fine. This sort of nonsense about China using different ingredients for their steel is borne out of ignorance of production processes.
In the end watches are not structural elements that hold up buildings where the exact composition and physical properties are critical to human life. I've built structures where I've requested specific analysis of the steel heat that made the structural steel I was using to ensure compliance. Stainless steel is a commodity, not some rare and precious material (despite what Rolex tells you) that is difficult to find. You are assuming that the steel that you assume is being used to make bracelets in China, is actually made in China - do you know any of that for certain?
Your entire argument here is built on assumptions that you have no evidence for...as you admit below...
News for you mate - virtually none of the parts inside or outside a watch have markings on the part referring to their country of origin. So every wheel, lever, spring, etc. doesn't have the country of origin marked on the part. There is no reason to, because it is a part of a whole, and that is what the laws refer to...
In the end this all comes down to trust. You clearly don't trust Omega to maintain quality standards with parts being made somewhere other than Switzerland. If that's your stance, then there's little anyone can say to convince you otherwise.
nor charge the corresponding premium for it, which is what this conversation is about.
I mentioned they fall off and poor assembly of assembled parts, some of which I mentioned by name.
quality is not a design decision and many decisions that are, are made taking into account the means of manufacturing,
no means to do something one way or to guarantee quality of said work means you make a difference decision,
where, by whom, and by what means, is taken into account in every decision.
it is how many, and not 'if' mistakes happen, that was my point,
again, together with the quality and type of work being done in context of pricing.
the work being done is not up to the perception attributed to '' Swiss Made ' for the price point,
we simply don't agree on the representativeness of numbers.
oh yes, I know it well,
and, as, I surmised, you do a lot better,
what we are talking about is not the end-material falling in/ out of tolerances,
but whether those tolerances fall within the range of a premium product,
and not if the steel is, as you put it, 'fine'.
yes, I am assuming it is being made in China, as I'd find it a bit odd if it was being made in Switzerland and omega simply neglected to include 'Swiss Made' on it.
which leads me to the point I admitted below having no evidence for, and not the one you attribute lack of evidence to,
since it is not up to me to prove that a bracelet or part not branded 'Swiss Made' has legitimate claim to 'Swiss Made' premium, it's up to the company that charges it:
not marked on the inside, not marked on the outside, not marked on the tags /package or whatever else it comes with /in,
so, the answer is, you have no idea what their provenance is, am I correct?
they are not part of a whole when they are separately purchased, nor does Omega consider bracelets, buckles, straps, or any element peripheral to the watch as part of the whole.
the context of this thread is the cost of parts purchase separately from the whole being able to claim the 'Swiss Made' premium,
and not if the watch is worth the cost in its entirety,
so, again, provenance of individual parts, assembled, as in case of a bracelet, for example, or individual, is pertinent to the point,
and not what the law refers to in the objective manner in which you put it.
I don't get all the tiptoeing around my points, as you clearly understand them,
this is only creating loops for no reason.