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By golly, I think you've got it.

I had heard this theory in regard to pocket watches, but never wristwatches -- but it makes perfect sense. This would explain why the watches are export models (English writing on the dials, date wheels, and back covers), and also why there is a misspelling on the inscription of one of mine. I just never put two and two together.
Number 1139 seems to confirm it.
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I don't mean to keep spamming Kev's thread, but rather than open a new one I thought I'd post a new arrival here.

This is a Serkisof Railway watch with a very special dial labeled "Türkiye Cumhuriyeti Devlet (T.C.D.) Demiryolları" or State Railways of the Turkish Republic. I can find very little information about this particular watch, but I do understand that it was not sold in the open market. One must have been an official railway employee in order to get it.

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I've only seen one other watch like this one, and the blogger has a few interesting tidbits to share:

K. Serkisoff & Co were exclusive suppliers for the Turkish National Railways since 1880. The Ottoman Empire had signed an agreement with K. Serkisoff & Co in 1880. Since then, when one retires from the railways, it is a tradition to give the person a Serkisoff railway watch as a present.

I cannot confirm these historical details, but I do know that my watch is similarly inscribed on the case-back. Maybe someone here can help with the translation.

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Most interestingly, the other watch I found has the same strange hands. I've never seen this style on any other Vostok. The watch and dial reflects a standard Vostok design, but not these hands. They may have been specially comissioned for the Turkish Railway. The lume is very interesting, apparently applied into an open-ended fork at the tip of each hand:

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The movement on my piece is a standard issue 2506 with 17 jewels, but the one posted here has a gilt movement(!), the likes of which I've never seen. Perhaps a gilt movement belongs in mine as well, but I have no way of knowing.

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Thanks for sharing your thread, Kev!
 

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Well Dashiell I have to say I'm extremely jealous. I've been looking for one of these and I get home only to find the watch seeker has beat me too it. Congratulations on a fantastic find.
 

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Well Dashiell I have to say I'm extremely jealous. I've been looking for one of these and I get home only to find the watch seeker has beat me too it. Congratulations on a fantastic find.
I'll keep my eyes open. There are others out there! Just a matter of time.

And for you -- if you ever find another with signed dial, pay special attention to the movement. I want to see if these gold-plated movements are common for Serkisof and if mine should have one. Never seen such a movement on any other Vostok.
 

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:In my original post I seem to have been wrong , nothing new there then, when I wrote this off because of its date window.
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This was just for sale on eBay.
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The date window is much neater and in my opinion looks a lot better in a silver case. The first one was listed at around £60 to £70 plus post a if I remember correctly. The second one £32 plus postage or Best offer. Yes it's now on its way after my offer was accepted which basically gave me free postage. Pictures upon arrival.
 

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The watch from above arrived and boy did it give me a headache with its engraving. The best guess is : Yu. A. Shmiaknfrom the director of Pridnestrovska rail road *****
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Thanks to all that helped. On investigating this I discovered there is a Pridnestrovska Railway Union so maybe that's the mystery word .
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And another arrived today . This time from the Gorky Railway. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorky_Railway

This is in excellent condition and I think quite rare. Cue loads of pictures. Housed in my personal favourite komandirskie case I'm very pleased with this one.

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I'm trying to limit each section of my collection to 10 watches so in theory this is my final Railway themed one. Obviously if a Serkisof turns up then something will have to go. I know which one.

Hopefully this is genuine. The movement , case and hands are all Raketa i believe and the dial seems good to me. I would like your opinions.
This represents allegedly the oldest Russian Railway , the October Railway.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Railway

My translation comes out as:
Stations St. Petersburg -Home OCTOBER Railway

Still on its way so sellers photos.
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I'm trying to limit each section of my collection to 10 watches so in theory this is my final Railway themed one. Obviously if a Serkisof turns up then something will have to go.
Oh, Comrade, please.

Don't try to fool us and, most important, don't fool yourself.

All collectors have their own self-imposed limits, so if you have reached yours just do like all others would do: split your "Railway" main collection into "Trans-Siberian", "BAM" and "October" Railways sub-collections. It's that simple... :roll:

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Oh, Comrade, please.

Don't try to fool us and, most important, don't fool yourself.

All collectors have their own self-imposed limits, so if you have reached yours just do like all others would do: split your "Railway" main collection into "Trans-Siberian", "BAM" and "October" Railways sub-collections. It's that simple... :roll:

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I'm determined , however, can you have a sub collection of a sub collection? Interesting.
 

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My October Railway watch has arrived and as usual so has a mystery that hopefully one of our Russian comrades can help with. As well as the writing clearly visible that I think says Stations St. Petersburg -Home OCTOBER Railway there is a less visible initials . СИГ ? If you have any idea that would be great. They do represent some of the words on the dial , СТАНЦИЯ САНКТ-ПЕТЕРБУРГ -ГЛАВНАЯ ОКТЯБРЬСКАЯ ЖД just not really clear which ones.
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Another one on its way to join this sub collection. As far as I can tell it's 75 years of the Transportation Police or military ? Maybe the equivalent to our British Transport Police.

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Another one on its way to join this sub collection. As far as I can tell it's 75 years of the Transportation Police or military ? Maybe the equivalent to our British Transport Police.
Looks like a modern design with a sunken dial and flat (non-domed) crystal. Looking forward to more photos upon arrival. Cool find!
 

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kev80e - I think the СИГ watch is for Санкт-Петербург-Главный, and I think this translates as something like Saint Petersburg Main which is the sub-section running the St Petersburg terminal of the October Railway, including passengers but also a very significant cargo operation.
 

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kev80e - I think the СИГ watch is for Санкт-Петербург-Главный, and I think this translates as something like Saint Petersburg Main which is the sub-section running the St Petersburg terminal of the October Railway, including passengers but also a very significant cargo operation.
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Thanks very much for the additional information. This makes perfect sense. Much appreciated.
Looks like a modern design with a sunken dial and flat (non-domed) crystal. Looking forward to more photos upon arrival. Cool find!
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I've been digging and more modern makes sense with the Russian colours rather than Soviet. I think I see МВД within the cost of arms . This leads to The Ministry of Internal Affairs Russia . Is there a special section of this Ministry that deals with Transport ? I don't know but will keep digging.
 
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