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Based on the information provided by members of the community, it appears that a turquoise sub 300 Doxa homage watch from watchdives.com is a good option for an affordable watch on Ali-Express. Additionally, a watch inspired by the Seiko Prospex U.S. Special Edition, which is surprisingly not a replica, is also a good option. It has an alloy case, hardlex crystal, and a Chinese quartz movement, and is available at a reasonable price.
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Wasn鈥檛 there a whole thing about Ginault being linked to making fakes?

Anyway, for AliX, I鈥檒l echo Ivan and say San Martin and Cronos for your Sub homages
I had a brain fart and forgot which thread I was on , as for almost kind of slightly having a non exact duplicate & seems to have a nice build to it I'd say this new no date looks appealing. Otherwise from my experience of just the 300 meter st Martin I'd assume they make a great sub alternative as well. Plus they are allowed access to the lume juice which they apply liberally which I enjoyed.


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Link to that PD?

I suspect the usual PD where it looks good in promotional pics, but then you see irl pics and it looks meh, has unevenly applied lume, some weird printing, maybe some misaligned indices, that sort of stuff
US $139.99 80%OFF | PAGANI DESIGN New Super Luminous Men Mechanical Wristwatches Ceramic Bezel Sapphire Glass Automatic Watch Men relogio masculino

The video is compelling if nothing else. For the company they are pricing it like they put all the bells and whistles into it..

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Interesting. I on the other hand read so many stories of Ginault's customers commending John for great customer service which is part of the reason that made me pulled the trigger.

Just today I read something good about their solid customer service.
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Maybe post " hey you make real fakes damn you " storm he started giving a damn. Highly doubt I have the entire two responses I got based on explaining I dinged the hell out of my bezel ... which I still have on it as none of the normal 40mm /39mm bezel routes have worked so I can testify that his bezel size is definitely not real fake, it's real real sadly so cause I'd love to get a new non dinged bezel on watch. Either way it went basically 1. Acknowledging the concern I had to which he stated he doesn't sell parts for his watches. 2nd was he doesn't sell watches but if after a few months he has some left over then if I recall correctly 190$ but again this was entirely based on some future unknown date if even then. That's it that was my experience. If a new leaf has been turned over for john then all the better for everyone owning the watches ... hep hep hurray ... I will be emailing to test this new concept out first hand momentary.

Thanks for the heads up.

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You are welcome my friend.

I am reading your post but I can't seem to fully understand what you are saying. Your statement contradicts.

So help me out here:
Does he or does he not sell the replacement insert? If so, how much? Does he or does he not sell watches?

Perhaps I am confused but it sounds to me the majority of your gripe is that you don't want to pay the price Ginault asked for the replacement insert so in term that translates to bad customer service?




Don't think it's a new leaf turning kinda of revelation, been reading about their solid customer service to their customers for a long while.
Okay clearly sensing super fan boi vibes ...

1. I wanted to purchase a replacement bezel which I contacted him for ... to which I got he doesnt sell them (( at that time))

2. He then stated maybe after his current batches maybe if there was one available not that he could even guarentee it then maybe one could be sold maybe... (( hopefully you are getting what was being said here isnt truly an actual answer to my concern))) he then in passing said if this mystical bezel beast were to be available after making all the watches he needed then it would be around 190 .... understand this would be like me telling you I'm going to start making space shuttles to go to space , all seats are taken but who knows maybe you can buy a ride maybe sometime in the future.


Would you go around thinking you booked a trip ?

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They are on my no buy list-they sell their watches using genuine photos on Ali BS.
I have one en route & it's the most shameless one of them all so up until whatever a few days ago I held your same stance. Then late night web surfing well you know the drill. I'm hoping it functions as it should.

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Looking for a watch for my son , he still considers soulless quartz robot machines as watches. Anyone have first hand experience with this brand or ideally even this exact watch ?

Image from page , images from what seem like happy customers .. ps any secret double discount promo codes happening today ?


Thanks in advance for any assistance.


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Wow you can get a g-shock for that budget.

Or even a fitness band. The amazfit t-rex looks like a smart watch, is pretty rugged and has a customizable dial. Battery life of at least 2 weeks so it's pick and go for him.

What a trip, is this a company that use to be it's own brand & amazfit bought out or maybe I'm thinking of Fitbit.. googling and checking this alternative out , thanks to both who answered. Cheers.

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I bought it here: 鈧 137,22 51%OFF | Pilot 1963 Watch Mens Automatic Mechanical Wristwatch ETA ST2130 Movement Retro Air Force Stainless Steel Clocks Reloje Hombre

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Followed link and wowza on that shipping time table ... patience seems to be the theme on this one.


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I also had a long estimated delivery time but it arrived in less than 3 weeks to Europe. I am used to wait and does not bother me. I have always a watch on the way home. :))))

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That's the best and most prudent technique is always having something en route thereby never truly actually having to use that thing called " patience " which I believe is best suited for monks in general & especially apparently in the mountainous areas of Tibet.

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Anyone by chance own one of these & can give their 2 cents on quality , fit & finish .. in a perfect world maybe have a 7.5" wrist accompanied with a wrist shot or 2 maybe even a much appreciated lume shot ... after typing this all out it would seem I'm looking for a unicorn LOL but stranger things have occurred... thanks in advance

1st year of doing the 11.11 ... kinda wished instead of having everyone having all their orders all stacked up and being up all on the same sale day which will also mean all similarly being shipped out within similar dates , that a few of the bigger stores would just offer/ process out their 11.11 sale price & accept early orders.


Ps part 2 ... has anyone tipped their toe on St. Martin's original design watch ? Thing kind of looks like a roman Coliseum thing with lots of screw heads but those lugs ends get points for being original. Just wondering if people are supporting them offering original designs




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Does anyone have first hand knowledge on who actually still has this model available ideally black dial ... I found one place but nothing looks updated in over a year and not really wanting to send cash into the great unknown ... thanks


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For the tens possibly the hundreds who wish for the richard mille vibe but want to get some savings & a tourby...


And before people ask yes they made a military theme variant tourby so you are covered.


On another altogether note ... there seem to still be some juicy savings being allowed for 11:11

For the money I'd go with st Martin or seesteer thing but to each their own.


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