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Ok, I had more time to think/read about this watch and still need to see it in person however:

1) Price. It's too expensive in my opinion. I wouldn't feel I was getting my monies worth if I were to buy it even at grey market prices (assuming 20%). I wont go in to detail, but it has been mentioned in this thread as to value and I don't disagree.
2) The Arrow has to go on both dial and case back.
3) HE crown.. yah yah, it's not going anywhere but seriously, it is stopping me from buying any other SMP's although I adore my 2254.50 and I consider it a permanent resident in my collection. I guess I have that one exception. Without the crown I probably would excuse the arrow?
3a.) Come to think of it, I think the HE crown is why I have three AT's and 1 SMP vs the other way around. Who knows...

All that being said.. even though I am probably in the minority on this, I love the way it looks for the most part. I know Fauxtina is the devil now-a-days, but I don't mind it on this watch.
 

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Looks cool for purposes of the movie, but I wouldn’t buy it, especially at the crazy price point (USD $9,200 MSRP on shark mesh.) I would much rather have the stainless steel SMP in any of the dial colors. Trailer looks good, by the way. Excited for the movie
 

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I hope they keep this in the films for 8-10 years like the 2531. Omega needs to slow down and let their designs cook a bit.

That said, a date version of this watch in steel at $5K would be AWESOME. Doesn't seem like it would be that hard to retrofit the existing steel seamasters with the bezel (love that lume!), dial, and solid caseback.

Anyone know what those numbers on the back are for? Is this a non-limited but numbered watch, or is that stuff just supposed to replicate a military style inventory tracking system?
 

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Good to see Omega taking it's aesthetic style ideas from the much more popular and famous Seiko 5 sport..... I kid but funny coincidence

I like both watches very much, never had an issue with fauxtina, if it looks good it looks good.



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I would have to see it in person like many others, but at the price it would really have to sing to me. I have only seen one ‘aged’ lume that seemed to work so I would have to be persuaded. I like the look of the bracelet, but have not bought other watches where the strap was either the best thing in the package or not fitting for the cost of the whole package. I like the use of the arrows to reflect that Bond was in the British military. We shall see .....

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I hope they keep this in the films for 8-10 years like the 2531. Omega needs to slow down and let their designs cook a bit.

That said, a date version of this watch in steel at $5K would be AWESOME. Doesn't seem like it would be that hard to retrofit the existing steel seamasters with the bezel (love that lume!), dial, and solid caseback.

Anyone know what those numbers on the back are for? Is this a non-limited but numbered watch, or is that stuff just supposed to replicate a military style inventory tracking system?
It’s not a limited edition. The numbers and symbol are explained in this article about the watch from jamesbondlifestyle.com. Here is the pertinent excerpt:

Engraved on the caseback is the MoD [British Ministry of Defense] arrow and a series of numbers, which follow the exact format for genuine military-issue watches.

The “0552” is the code-number specified for Navy personnel, with “923 7697” being the number for a divers’ watch. The letter “A” is a code used to signify a watch with a screw-in crown, while “007” is James Bond’s iconic agent number. Finally, the number “62” is the year of the very first James Bond film Dr No.

The new watch is completed by a NAIAD LOCK caseback, which keeps all of the engravings in correct alignment.

Where the SPECTRE Seamaster watch was limited to 7,007 pieces, this No Time To Die watch is not a Limited Edition.
 

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Well, it's funny how we/I sometimes take a while to calm down after an initial reaction to a new watch, and really take time to do a serious appraisal. When I first saw the watch, I really loved all the features and the overall cool look of the piece. I thought I could get over the faux patina, as it suits the watch because of the vintage military heritage. But then I started to take a close look at all available photos, both on Omega's website and the various reviews. Then I realized that it is going to be the same faux patina that is on my Trilogy watches. To be honest, I agree that the faux patina is really just a different color used for the lumed areas, but I think it can be done with a lot less of the orange hue, and made a lot more subtle.

One reason I am selling two of my three Trilogy models is just that, the faux patina is just too dark and too much orange. It starts to get to me after a while. And it is possible to make it a lot more subtle like, for example the Tudor Pelagos LHD. And with the new 007 edition of the Seamaster, there is even more of it. A lot more. When I see the photos, it is all I am noticing.

Then there is the price. Here in Canada, $11,500cad. The regular 300M, with stainless steel bracelet, is $6500cad. Normally, a James Bond or 007 edition is around $1000 premium. In this case, I might even justify $2000 mainly because the titanium is more expensive and more difficult to work. But 5 grand is just too much. I don't mind spending good money on any watch, but I have to justify in my own mind that there is value. Another example: I love the IWC Big Pilot, and looked at it a few times. The price is $16,200cad, and in my mind it is a watch that should be selling for about $12,000. With the Seamaster 300M 007, IMO we are getting into the same thing. A watch that is $11,500cad should be around $8500 at most, a premium of 2 grand of the regular model. And, again, the faux patina is just far too overwhelming.

So, after my initial reaction soon after the watch was announced, I did a bit of homework and have decided no, this is not going to be the one for me.

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Amen, besides you have that amazing H Moser to love ;-)

Well, it's funny how we/I sometimes take a while to calm down after an initial reaction to a new watch, and really take time to do a serious appraisal. When I first saw the watch, I really loved all the features and the overall cool look of the piece. I thought I could get over the faux patina, as it suits the watch because of the vintage military heritage. But then I started to take a close look at all available photos, both on Omega's website and the various reviews. Then I realized that it is going to be the same faux patina that is on my Trilogy watches. To be honest, I agree that the faux patina is really just a different color used for the lumed areas, but I think it can be done with a lot less of the orange hue, and made a lot more subtle.

One reason I am selling two of my three Trilogy models is just that, the faux patina is just too dark and too much orange. It starts to get to me after a while. And it is possible to make it a lot more subtle like, for example the Tudor Pelagos LHD. And with the new 007 edition of the Seamaster, there is even more of it. A lot more. When I see the photos, it is all I am noticing.

Then there is the price. Here in Canada, $11,500cad. The regular 300M, with stainless steel bracelet, is $6500cad. Normally, a James Bond or 007 edition is around $1000 premium. In this case, I might even justify $2000 mainly because the titanium is more expensive and more difficult to work. But 5 grand is just too much. I don't mind spending good money on any watch, but I have to justify in my own mind that there is value. Another example: I love the IWC Big Pilot, and looked at it a few times. The price is $16,200cad, and in my mind it is a watch that should be selling for about $12,000. With the Seamaster 300M 007, IMO we are getting into the same thing. A watch that is $11,500cad should be around $8500 at most, a premium of 2 grand of the regular model. And, again, the faux patina is just far too overwhelming.

So, after my initial reaction soon after the watch was announced, I did a bit of homework and have decided no, this is not going to be the one for me.

Cheers,
Carl
 

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One reason I am selling two of my three Trilogy models is just that, the faux patina is just too dark and too much orange. It starts to get to me after a while. And it is possible to make it a lot more subtle like, for example the Tudor Pelagos LHD. And with the new 007 edition of the Seamaster, there is even more of it. A lot more. When I see the photos, it is all I am noticing.
Manufacturers really need to get the color right on the aged lume. I think the color is perfect on the 300mc (no orange, a little cream) while the Pelogos is too yellow, and looks like it was soaked in urine. This Seamaster looks like it went more orange for a greater aged look, like the photo below. I like it, but I won't be buying it. In a small collection I don't see myself wanting more than one watch with faux patina.

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Don’t know guys, this could go both ways...they could sell like hot cakes, or the price will throw a lot of people into NAAH, NO. If the price drops significantly, I kinda like it.
 

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Manufacturers really need to get the color right on the aged lume. I think the color is perfect on the 300mc (no orange, a little cream) while the Pelogos is too yellow, and looks like it was soaked in urine. This Seamaster looks like it went more orange for a greater aged look, like the photo below. I like it, but I won't be buying it. In a small collection I don't see myself wanting more than one watch with faux patina.

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After seeing this pic, it does remind me of others I have seen. And I think they were really trying to go for more of that "rusty" shade. The 300mc is just about right. I can forgive the faux patina on my Railmaster Trilogy, as it was a grail watch of mine for so many years. And I am taking full advantage of the color by getting a couple of leather straps that really look good with it. Like you, I kind of feel that I will end up with only 1 watch with faux patina, and that is my Railmaster.

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To be honest, I am really picking on the new 007 a lot more than I normally would. Simply because I can in no way justify the price. I have spent a lot on watches over time, and I don't mind spending 10k or more on a watch, as long as I can justify the value. I might even try harder to like the faux patina if the price was in keeping with my sense of value.

I will admit that in my pics here, the patina does look closer to the vintage Rolex in your pic.

Cheers,
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This whole thing kinda exemplifies my love / hate relationship with Omega. The Railmaster and the retro Seamaster reissue are totally on the money, but so many others... aren't, and get so much so wrong. To my eye, obviously, YMMV.

Then again, that stealth-Speedy with the mustard colour indices is a guilty pleasure. And I still lust over the Speedy Mk II reissue with the racing dial.

But at this price, and that godawful Milanese bracelet? This is a big ol' no from me.
 
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