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Not been here long but already think this is a great community. Ernie has started something great which I hope continues to grow, help, amuse and inform.
 
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Another good enthusiast forum that has been purchased by evil VerticalScope from Toronto.. Like many good car and motorcycle forums in the past, they will introduce lots of advertising, change rules for current advertisers and just profit from member content. And no, they don't care about your stupid watches or the people on these forums. You're just a product that generates content so they can make money with advertising.

With a large forum like this, I am sure they paid good money for it and the founder made a good profit. It is always a story about how the previous owner doesn't have the time anymore, VerticalScope is the right fit, nothing is going to change, all about the community and blah, blah, blah. They never mention anything about the price that was paid for all the members and content.

I encourage you to search for VerticalScope / AutoGuide (Verticalscope sucks) and forum buyouts and make up your own mind. The moderators are going to be unpaid staff for VerticalScope as they will be doing all the work without any pay. The adminsitrator is a paid office employee and often has no experience in managing forums and doesn't know anything about the subject of the forum. And they will not stick around as they will be replaced by another faceless corporate employee. They don't activily participates and only control the moderators and forward issues to tech support.

You can say goodbye to Tapatalk because they will force to use their own app so they can control you even more and push more advertising. Also expect lots of tracking cookies, viglinks, links you posted that direct to their own advertisers website and even spam. Your email address and user profile has been sold so make up your own mind. Verticalscope now owns all your valuable reviews, pictures and other content. And they can do with it whatever they want.

Goodbye WUS, it was nice to know you for the short time I was here. I am not for sale.

This will be the new terms of service in case you're wondering: VerticalScope - Driven by Enthusiasts

VerticalScope : Driven by Enthusiasts
Perhaps you could tell me what site you belonged to that we did you so much wrong.

I agree. I retain the copyright for most photos I post on WUS, with the copyright notice clearly indicated on each photo. I also use those photos in other personal publishing endeavors, and would not consent to an assignment of my copyright just by virtue of its publication on WUS. Nor would I agree to any extensive use of my copyrighted photos outside of WUS.
You still do, we don't claim any copyright ownership of your content only that you published it here so you granted us the publishing rights to keep it here. The content you post here is still yours you can use it as you feel fit to.

Technically, any picture you post on a Vertical-owned site can't be used anywhere else. So you can't use your own pictures that you submitted. Any review you have written, they own it.
Sadly, they don't tell you this with the announcement of the new ownership.
This is more fear mongering, we dont publish your images outside the site. Some sites have an email newsletter that goes out that will publish links to threads and content you should read chosen by the mod and admin staff on these forums or an article(review) can be published to the front page of a site, that is what this is for.
 

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You still do, we don't claim any copyright ownership of your content only that you published it here so you granted us the publishing rights to keep it here. The content you post here is still yours you can use it as you feel fit to.
Thanks for clarifying, much appreciated. It was as I read it then.
 

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Thanks for clarifying, much appreciated. It was as I read it then.
If you need further clarification please remember I am not a lawyer, I don't know if you are. I am the only one the site from the team this weekend other than one support person in the office with enough already to do so its tough to get more answers than what I posted but please feel free to send me pms if you have specifics you want answered. The reason I ask for PMs is I get alerts for those and if I have to compile questions into a document to get further clarification on specifics from the people who are lawyers it makes my life way easier if its all in one place to copy and paste it.
 

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If you need further clarification please remember I am not a lawyer, I don't know if you are. I am the only one the site from the team this weekend other than one support person in the office with enough already to do so its tough to get more answers than what I posted but please feel free to send me pms if you have specifics you want answered. The reason I ask for PMs is I get alerts for those and if I have to compile questions into a document to get further clarification on specifics from the people who are lawyers it makes my life way easier if its all in one place to copy and paste it.
Thank you for your answer.
 

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Good luck with whatever you decide to do in the future. Health is very important and you need to make that your priority.

Best Regards,

Akitadog, from the WET coast of BC Canada
 

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Thanks for all the hard work and for making this place happen..
All the best in future projects.
Guillermo
 

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Thank you, Ernie, for all you've done; and you've done it so very, very well... feeding my healthy addiction!

All the best to you, your family, and your health...

And a merry welcome to the new team...
 

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Thank you, Ernie, for essentially guiding me into this whole world of WIS.

I wish you and your family all the best. I wish you continued success in all your future endeavours. Take care of yourself!
 

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I'd actually appreciate a reply from the new management on this - in particular the use of personal information. If the terms have changed from when members signed on under the previous ownership, then they should be given notice and consent to any changes in how our personal information will be used or shared.
Unless I missed something I saw responses to every issue raised but this one.
 

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Another good enthusiast forum that has been purchased by evil VerticalScope from Toronto.. Like many good car and motorcycle forums in the past, they will introduce lots of advertising, change rules for current advertisers and just profit from member content. And no, they don't care about your stupid watches or the people on these forums. You're just a product that generates content so they can make money with advertising.

With a large forum like this, I am sure they paid good money for it and the founder made a good profit. It is always a story about how the previous owner doesn't have the time anymore, VerticalScope is the right fit, nothing is going to change, all about the community and blah, blah, blah. They never mention anything about the price that was paid for all the members and content.

I encourage you to search for VerticalScope / AutoGuide (Verticalscope sucks) and forum buyouts and make up your own mind. The moderators are going to be unpaid staff for VerticalScope as they will be doing all the work without any pay. The adminsitrator is a paid office employee and often has no experience in managing forums and doesn't know anything about the subject of the forum. And they will not stick around as they will be replaced by another faceless corporate employee. They don't activily participates and only control the moderators and forward issues to tech support.

You can say goodbye to Tapatalk because they will force to use their own app so they can control you even more and push more advertising. Also expect lots of tracking cookies, viglinks, links you posted that direct to their own advertisers website and even spam. Your email address and user profile has been sold so make up your own mind. Verticalscope now owns all your valuable reviews, pictures and other content. And they can do with it whatever they want.

Goodbye WUS, it was nice to know you for the short time I was here. I am not for sale.

This will be the new terms of service in case you're wondering: VerticalScope - Driven by Enthusiasts

VerticalScope : Driven by Enthusiasts
I just googled 'verticalscope problems' and 'verticalscope sucks' and to be honest i was shocked by what i found, lets just say its not good.

I have no personal opinion or personal experience so i can only go by what i read, i can only encourage others to do the same and form their own opinions and i guess the proof will be in how this place goes in the future.

Once again welcome to our new owners, i hope you do this place justice, i will hold off on my opinions until they have had enough time to prove themselves either way, but i am worried to be honest at what ive just found on the net.
 

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I just googled 'verticalscope problems' and 'verticalscope sucks' and to be honest i was shocked by what i found, lets just say its not good.

I have no personal opinion or personal experience so i can only go by what i read, i can only encourage others to do the same and form their own opinions and i guess the proof will be in how this place goes in the future.

Once again welcome to our new owners, i hope you do this place justice, i will hold off on my opinions until they have had enough time to prove themselves either way, but i am shocked at what ive just found on the net.
I read up on VerticalScope earlier today and was not pleased at all. I truly hope I don't have to search for a new watch-related home base.
 
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