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I inherited this one from my Dad, who had bought it years ago and never got it fixed. The really interesting thing is the dial with the French Air Force pilot crest.



 

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It looks nice, but I think you are going to have a hard time finding parts for it. I may be wrong but, I don't believe Breitling supports the movement anymore.
 

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I may be wrong but, I don't believe Breitling supports the movement anymore.
You are correct, unfortunately. :-|

The trick would be to find a replacement quartz module, but that may prove quite a challenge in itself. O|
 

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Pascal,

That's a very nice Navitimer 2100 Pluton - or at least would be if you could get it repaired and working.

Do you have any pics of the back and/or the movement?

Regards,

Alan
 

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Well, it only took me 25 years to get this baby running again after my Dad bought it in 1985! :-d



 

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congratulations pascal. enjoy your watch
 

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This is probably a dumb question, but what's the purpose of having the countdown numbers on the bezel running in reverse like that?
 

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Generally, its indicating "minutes until" which in aviation is a critical function if you are calculating your time until a way point (geographic feature) which is important for your planned flight path. It may indicate a point where you alter course, descend or turn or simply mark the ' point of no return' for your flight in relation to the amount of fuel you have on board. So you can see at a glance that, per say, you have 15 minutes of a 45 minute flight plan remaining and that you should be preparing to descend in 5 minutes. It is quickly reset to mark the next interval of note if you have to or you can see the whole of the time line if its less then an hour, as displayed by the position of the bezel, in relation to the minute hand.
 

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Generally, its indicating "minutes until" which in aviation is a critical function if you are calculating your time until a way point (geographic feature) which is important for your planned flight path. It may indicate a point where you alter course, descend or turn or simply mark the ' point of no return' for your flight in relation to the amount of fuel you have on board. So you can see at a glance that, per say, you have 15 minutes of a 45 minute flight plan remaining and that you should be preparing to descend in 5 minutes. It is quickly reset to mark the next interval of note if you have to or you can see the whole of the time line if its less then an hour, as displayed by the position of the bezel, in relation to the minute hand.
OK that makes perfect sense....thanks.|>
 

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I've just noticed that I never gave the complete background story of this very interesting watch.

Most among us know, and some of us quite like, the French Air Force issued chronographs from the 50s, 60s, and 70s. Names like Vixa, Bréguet, Auricoste, Airain or Dodane immediately mean something to military watch collectors. But in the 1980s, the French military chose to switch to something more modern and elected to go quartz. And two suppliers stepped forward with a watch to fit stated requirements.

One of these companies was the recently resurrected Breitling with its new Navitimer 2100 Quartz "Pluton" model. The other company was Yema with a similar ana-digi chronograph. Word is that these watches proved so unreliable that many of them failed after just a few months and they were quickly discarded, possibly even before being officially issued. In the case of the Breitling, the main problem was the highly unreliable ESA quartz module. The problem was so serious in fact that the Swiss company took the unimaginable initiative to source its quartz module in Japan with Miyota for its next series of quartz watches, a detail the company would rather ignore nowadays...

Well, sometime in 1985 my dad and I were looking around in the Friebe pilot shop that existed on the Cannes Airport where I was taking flying lessons. And we got intrigued by a used watch offered on sale there. My father had a weak spot for the new Breitling chronographs, and negotiated a good price for this no longer working watch, hoping a battery change might do the trick. It didn't, and Breitling told us that they actually could not repair that watch. So my dad kept it, not really knowing what the history of that chrono was, nor even what that logo on the dial was meant to represent. As for me, I had almost forgotten about this watch.

I got reacquainted with it after my dad's death in 2004. I inherited his little collection of timepieces, including this one. It's only then that I realized that this Breitling had on its dial the French Air Force crest. My interest was up, clearly. After a bit of research, I learned about the short career these chronographs had in the French Air Force, just like their Yema cousins. So I thought I would try to get Breitling to repair it. Bad idea! They tried their best to convince me to give that watch up to them, trying to bribe me with huge discounts on their current models. But I was not interested. I actually had to be pretty firm to finally get my watch back! So I was back to square one.

Thanks to other watch collectors, I found out that some other watches had been powered by a similar but more reliable quartz module from ESA. And after a long search I finally bought one of these watches to act as a donor. And it's only last year that my Pluton got the heart transplant that brought it back to life.

The watch now resides on a black NATO strap. Not only does look better this way in my opinion, it is also more comfortable to wear than on its original steel bracelet.







 

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Great story to the first watch presented and the last two are just too cool, I wish I had one of them. Congratulations from a very envious Mil-Watch collector.

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Jimmy
 

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Thought you'd appreciate these two I picked up a year or so ago.
I'm very familiar with the first one as you had got in touch with me at the time you bought it. The main issue with this example is the fact that only the dial is genuinely from Breitling. It has found its way inside a Chronosport UDT "Mark I", which is for all intents and purposes the same watch. It is really a pity this chrono is a put-together affair because this dial looks great in a PVD case.

The second one is new to me, and a bit of a surprise given that I'm not sure why the Air Force would need to issue a diver. Maybe it was a proposal Breitling made to the French military as they sent their batch of Plutons for their ill-fated evaluation campaign.
 

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I'm very familiar with the first one as you had got in touch with me at the time you bought it. The main issue with this example is the fact that only the dial is genuinely from Breitling. It has found its way inside a Chronosport UDT "Mark I", which is for all intents and purposes the same watch. It is really a pity this chrono is a put-together affair because this dial looks great in a PVD case.

The second one is new to me, and a bit of a surprise given that I'm not sure why the Air Force would need to issue a diver. Maybe it was a proposal Breitling made to the French military as they sent their batch of Plutons for their ill-fated evaluation campaign.
Yep, you can usually tell a Chronosport because they didn't use the inner bezel around the dial like Breitling did. Plus, I've never seen a true Breitling with a PVD case either two button or three. Here's the regular Breitling version of the 2nd watch.

 

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The version with the French Air Force crest is really cool looking. Very interesting find! :-!
 

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Just to let you know and never say never :)

Chrono Maritime
http://breitlinglounge.de/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=388

"Colt" Neptune
http://breitlinglounge.de/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=593

Navitimer 2100
Untitled Document

and several more.
The Maritime is neither two button or three. We're talking about Quartz watches with digital displays so no Colt's either. Your last reference wasn't 100% authentic either. Oh, and anything that uses Breitlinglounge as a reference has to be taken with a grain of salt.
 
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