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Just new to the site ..Impressed already|>.Might be a sad question but Im a bit dubious about the purchase Ive just made.If some one could post some info to put my mind at rest it would be great..:-S
Purchase: Breitling Windrider 2003 model Automatic, Guilloche dial with gold markers on bezel, 38mm midsize supposily model 191 670 but when I recieved the piece it just said Wings' above the no 6 not the chrono info that was on the 191 670 model picture..
May I be so bold as to ask what would be the correct purchase price so I dont feel Ive been sent down the swanny..Cheers to you all:-!
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The 'Guilloche' dial sounds a bit off for 2003. I have a 96 model wings (one of the first when it was released if I remember right) with the blue guilloche dial and I believe the later Wings models just had a plain dial.

After 2000 I think it also came with a chronemeter certified movement, so surely it should say 'chronometre' somewhere on the dial?

In the UK I have seen a few for sale at £1500 ish 2nd hand from dealers, and my local AD had a new one available for that price a few months back.

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Re: Breitling Wings..Scarry Questions

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Was out the country..Here is a recent pic what do you think breitling wings.jpg Thanks again for your comments.... Breitling wings 2.jpg .Is there any way this watch is a fake or have I paid over the odds for this model ie £900???I know its a pesemist view but that me:-S Cheers again
 

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Re: Breitling Wings..Scarry Questions

Not from what I can see. That dial has goodness knows how many operations performed on it during production. No faker can come close to its precision.
You may have paid a bit over the odds but it has years of service ahead of it and the discomfort will soon be forgotten. Wear it well!
 

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Re: Breitling Wings..Scarry Questions

wizard,

Welcome to the forum and congratulations on buying your very lovely Wings. I have received your PM and as requested will give my thoughts although others have now posted.

I agree with SnapIT that it looks absolutely genuine. I have seen fakes of this model and this is not one of them.

However it is not a 2003 model (as stated by jaypeeaitch). It may very well have been originally sold new in 2003 but this is the earlier version of the Wings that last appeared in the catalogue in 1999. The 2000 catalog (issued late 1999) shows the later version with a redesigned non-guilloche dial. It is arguable which is the more desirable version - personally I do not think the later one is necessarily an improvement and in years to come the guilloche model may become the more desired one.

I can see that the model reference on the case back of your watch is B10050 which is correct for a pre-2000 Wings. The model ref you quote, 191 670 is not a Breitling reference; perhaps it is a dealer's own reference? Or is this the serial number that appears below the model ref?

Regarding price, there are many variables; does the watch have all the original documentation? Does it have a warranty from the seller? When was it last serviced and by whom? The way I see it is that if it was sold to you without paperwork by a dealer who claimed it was a 2003 model then you were mislead and therefore could be due for a refund (of say about £100 - £200 IMHO). However, if it has the original paperwork showing a sale date of 2003, unless the dealer is a specialist in Breitlings he cannot be expected to know its true age and therefore you probably have no claim on him. Please note I do not claim to be knowledgeable about pricing - these are just opinions.

The bottom line is that you have a very nice Breitling and I will finish with a direct steal from SnapIT's answer which could not be stated better: "You may have paid a bit over the odds but it has years of service ahead of it and the discomfort will soon be forgotten. Wear it well!" :)

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Thanks Guys,
True gentlemen for the reply and info attached:gold....Delighted with my purchase anyhow...I wish you all on the Forum an early Happy Christmas and a prosperous New Year....I shall be a regular visitor hense forth...:-!
 

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Thanks Guys,
True gentlemen for the reply and info attached:gold....Delighted with my purchase anyhow...I wish you all on the Forum an early Happy Christmas and a prosperous New Year....I shall be a regular visitor hense forth...:-!
wizard,

It's great to hear you are delighted with the watch :-!

Buying/collecting watches is an acquired skill and as you become hooked :) and buy more of them you will undoubtedly hone those skills. The great deals you will sometimes get in the future will lessen the effect of a slightly worse deal this time. The good news is that you have an excellent watch which will give you a lot of pleasure.

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Re: Breitling Wings..Scarry Questions

Hi Guys ,
Was out the country..Here is a recent pic what do you think View attachment 33165 Thanks again for your comments.... View attachment 33166 .Is there any way this watch is a fake or have I paid over the odds for this model ie £900???I know its a pesemist view but that me:-S Cheers again
Looks gorgeous! And yes you have the same version as mine (manuf. pre-2000), but mine came on the pilot bracelet. I would prefer mine on a strap anyway. I certainly prefer the pre-2000 watch to the facelifted version myself, but then again I am biased.

Handily, from the back shot you post I notice it's fitted with a 19mm strap - that would explain why I could never find the right 18mm blue strap to fit mine! I might just go do my AD now and get the correct strap for mine as after seeing yours I realise I should be wearing mine again!

Not at all sure on pricing, others seem to hint you paid top dollar, I have no idea - but you can be sure you'll get great service out of that watch. Mine came back from a full service at BUK early on this year and it looks like a new watch, pretty good value for a 10 year old watch now.

Enjoy it, and thanks for the great pics (especially now you've solved the 18 --> 19 mm strap issue for me!).

Joe.

PS. Just be a little careful wearing it in bed as I managed to catch a gold rider tab on a thread and bend it off - easily replaced, but a bit of a pain.
 
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