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Before I start throwing the seller under the bus.

Short story.
Watch was on the sales section here.
Agreed to buy the watch on the 15th.
Wired the money on the 16th.
Haven't heard from the seller in 2 days.
I've sent several emails, phone calls, and messages. I saw today he even read 1 of my WhatsApp messages.

I will start a new thread if I don't here back with all the details tomorrow if I don't here from him.

What are the proper steps I should take here as I am new to all this as you can see with my post count.

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Before I start throwing the seller under the bus.

Short story.
Watch was on the sales section here.
Agreed to buy the watch on the 15th.
Wired the money on the 16th.
Haven't heard from the seller in 2 days.
I've sent several emails, phone calls, and messages. I saw today he even read 1 of my WhatsApp messages.

I will start a new thread if I don't here back with all the details tomorrow if I don't here from him.

What are the proper steps I should take here as I am new to all this as you can see with my post count.

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Im sorry to hear that. Hope this all works out for you. Just a question, did you do your research on the seller? Generally, you should buy the seller not the watch.

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I am guessing the moderators will help you or give you their thoughts on the situation as best they can but they would likely have some limitations too as they are not partied to the actual transaction, have you sent a message to the mods directly? Did the seller have okay feedback / a lot of posts? Life happens, there might be a reasonable explanation on the seller side. Hope it works okay.

When you say wired, was it a bank transfer or paypal? Not sure, but i think the latter potentially has some protections that might help but not sure about former.
 

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I can understand the anxiety but maybe there’s a reason he/she hasn’t responded? Maybe he was busy at work? Maybe he’s trying to get the watch in a box, packing it etc.?

Was it an expensive watch? You can tell us some details about the seller like how long he’s been here, post count, feedback or sales history without naming him/her.
 

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It was a wire transfer from bank to bank.

Seller had over 200 posts on here and a few references. I emailed the references and they got back to me saying I can trust the seller. I emailed the references today again and haven't heard back, more red flags.

I hope I'm over reacting but the seller responded in minutes when buying the watch and crickets for the past few days.

What's the best way to reach the moderators?

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Are you in the US? Was it a domestic wire transfer?
 

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Are you in the US? Was it a domestic wire transfer?
Canada to US wire transfer.

And yes it was for a expensive watch, very expensive for me personally.

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I know that I've delayed response to a buyer message for 2-3 days when I'm super busy. Some jobs you never know when crunch time is. Usually I try to get a note out but I have forgotten to do that at least once in the past.

If he has references, it's most likely just some time consuming stuff on his end. But keep everything documented just in case.
 

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I know that I've delayed response to a buyer message for 2-3 days when I'm super busy. Some jobs you never know when crunch time is. Usually I try to get a note out but I have forgotten to do that at least once in the past.

If he has references, it's most likely just some time consuming stuff on his end. But keep everything documented just in case.
Let's hope so but what does it take to write a 10 second email or text. He knows now that I'm scared of this being a scam.

At what point should I make everything public? How long do you give someone, I feel the longer I wait the worst my chances are of doing anything about the issue.

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Come to think of it, I am actually not sure how to contact the mods directly as never done it. Found this page, there is a form, I think it might
be a route for contact... https://www.watchuseek.com/contact/

Its hard to say, but if it were me i would not be so worried about a couple days. Might be an issue, might not, tough to say. There might be a reasonable explanation. Perhaps they will be more responsive over the weekend. Hope it works out okay.

I generally prefer paypal, not sure how transfers work if there actually ends up being issue.
 

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what kind of watch was it?
 

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I might contact the bank you wired the money to to see if there has been any suspicious activity, if they will tell you, like the account being closed. That would be a trigger something is wrong.
As others have said, never wire money to a stranger. Always use a third party like PayPal.



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I'm not sure what the mods can do other than to perhaps ban the account(s). All sales here are private. Definitely not helpful for you now (I know) but 200 post count seems kinda low to me.. esp if you look at their post content and see that they were all sorta throwaway shallow posts. With a wire transfer, your remedies are unfortunately very limited (if not non-existent). You could go to your local police and file a report. But I cant say I've heard that has come with much success.

3% upcharges can suck for paypal but at least it buys you some protection.

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anyway, keep the faith for now. maybe the seller just got busy.
 

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I might contact the bank you wired the money to to see if there has been any suspicious activity, if they will tell you, like the account being closed. That would be a trigger something is wrong.
As others have said, never wire money to a stranger. Always use a third party like PayPal.



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I would still do it but swap personal information (and only for *very* established members) before the transfer.

Still, it's only been two days. I'd wait for maybe 1-2 more days, and then post his information and see what the mods can do (or ask now, but it's a bit of a overreaction).
 

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Ouch! Sorry to hear about that.
I’d never buy a watch from a member with just over 200 posts, let alone a Submariner and wire transfer the money. In my opinion, the 100 posts requirement before selling is way too low.
 
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Yikes, that is a big purchase, much bigger than I would have guessed. Likely nerveracking to begin with aside from all this other stuff, hopefully it works out okay. I feel for you.
 

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People telling you to wait and that sometimes sellers get distracted... it's easy for them because it's not their money.

There's zero excuse to be incommunicado like this, especially given the assumed amount paid for a Submariner. The seller has your money. It's their responsibility to keep in contact as they ship the watch, send you tracking info, etc. If they got held up by work, the least you can expect is a quick note, "Sorry, overwhelmed right now but I'll get the watch out within the next XX hours."

Anything else is poor communication, possible negligence or worse.

I hope everything works out for you.
 
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