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Cockpit review of the Marathon Navigator 2019.

I've been a watch enthusiast for over a decade, and a professional aviator for over 22 years, yet it's just now that I feel I've found a few truly "it" watches. First disclaimer: I only speak for myself and my own experience as a Naval Flight Officer (think "Goose" from Top Gun), and mileage varies WIDELY here. I do not speak for the Navy, the government, or any other organization, and this personal review is not a product endorsement. Second disclaimer: the best modern watches for professional flying are digital multifunction watches (yes, analog has its merits and I prefer it, but I'm under no illusions about what makes the best tool). Ok with that out of the way, I've been looking for a perfect analog flying watch for a long time. Let me describe why I feel the Navigator makes my list.
  1. Legibility. As I've gotten older, my aircraft navigation systems have gotten better. When I first started in T-34, T-2, and T-39 trainers, I absolutely needed a good watch with stop-watch capability in order to graduate flight training. When I moved on to "gray jets" (i.e., actual combat aircraft), the first variants of the EA-6B Prowler I operated had a drifty inertial navigation system with no direct GPS integration, so again I needed a good multi-function watch. This was especially true for low level visual navigation. Cheap digital watches took care of me then. In later, improved versions of the EA-6B, and in the newer EA-18G Growler, I really didn't need to time things off my wrist as much (though with the Growler lacking a mechanical 8-day clock, I still flew all my sorties with a chronograph). My mindset, especially as my age and eyes exceeded 40, shifted to simple, legible designs. The Navigator has a perfectly clean and legible dial: you can easily read the exact time at a glance. Where it really shines however (pun intended), is at night. A lot of my career has been carrier based and most of my night flying has been on Night Vision Goggles. The ship, when you're not flying, gets really dark at night with few light sources to charge traditional lume. Flying on goggles keeps your eyes from dark adapting because you have a little green TV screen in front of each eye, meanwhile you keep your cockpit lighting as minimal as possible. All this amounts to the fact that there are many times on long, dark nights that you look down and struggle to read your traditional lume, both in flight and on the ship. With tritium tubes: problem solved. In fact the lume is so good that if evading capture in hostile territory, you'd have to cover the dial with your glove or flight suit cuff.
  2. Utility. I never thought I'd like a 12-hour bezel, but now I love it. What I really enjoy is the fact that I don't just get one single piece of information as with a normal GMT hand, i.e., the current hour in UTC time (AKA Zulu time). Instead, with the bezel I can quickly look at any time in the future and translate it to/from Zulu time. That is really useful in pre-flight planning when looking at the weather forecast, Air Tasking Order (ATO), or notices to airmen (NOTAMs), all three products being written in Zulu time. So when thunderstorms are forecasted for 1800-2000Z, I can very quickly find that time range on my bezel and translate it to local time (important because flight schedules and ship's schedules are published in local time). Additionally, the bezel doubles as an elapsed time bezel, and I find myself using that a lot day to day.
  3. Accuracy. No need to belabor this point but quartz is super accurate and that is important in a business where seconds count. My Navigator's accuracy greatly exceeds the published limits, which are already awesome.
  4. Ruggedness. The 2019 Navigators are water resistant (yes I wish they were more so, like 100m, but 60m will do fine), magnetic resistant, impact/shock resistant, and scratch resistant (thanks to the introduction of sapphire crystals into the newest model). Carrier life is tough on watches: you're surrounded by metal all the time and watches get banged up a lot. I would go on deployment with this Navigator with no fear.
  5. Convenience. For those used to being critical of quartz, the Navigator at least gives you an End Of Life indicator and an operator-accessible batter hatch so that anyone can replace a battery. So you're not likely to get surprised by a dead battery at an inconvenient time, and no problem if the battery goes out while you're in the middle of the ocean on an aircraft carrier (or at an air base in Afghanistan), as long as you were smart enough to pack a spare.
  6. Looks. Yes, I care about looks. Yes, I noticed that the new Growler aircraft is cooler looking than the Prowler (although that old girl grows on you). The Navigator's aesthetic is super cool. A mix of modern and old school, and it just looks so purposeful, I love it.
I'll conclude this with a third disclaimer that my operational flying days are behind me: having completed squadron command and having served as an Air Boss in the tower, I'm now working on a training base and getting to fly trainer aircraft now and then. But it wasn't that long ago that I flew operationally, and if I got the call tomorrow to go back, I'd do it in a heartbeat, and I'd be bringing my Navigator with me (to be fair I'd also bring my J80 chrono as there would be flights where, as the backseater, I better have stop watch capability). Seriously Navy, I'm ready, please make the call!

Note: Want give a shout-out to other watches I've flown with, including the old Citizen Navihawk which I took to Afghanistan and loved, the outstanding Butler J80 chrono that I'll wear if flying a low-level of other time-intensive flight, and simple Timex digitals. Also have enjoyed taking an Omega Speedmaster and a Stowa Flieger up flying with an appreciating nod to history. There is just a lot of aviation watch goodness out there!

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I notice you have it on a green nylon strap vice a black one. Did it come that way?

Thanks for the review.

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That strap was from Crown & Buckle. The watch came with a black RAF style NATO. I have since put it on a a military green C&B strap with black hardware:
 

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Thanks for the great review. These watches have been on my radar for a few months now, but I have various Luminox and Traser pieces so it's a bit hard to justify something similar. I just love their aesthetics though.
 

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On Christmas Eve I wore a "Pilots Watch" (my Tisell Flieger) figuring the day is hallmarked by a guy flying around the world in a sleigh and thus the Tisell seemed appropriate. It is good to see someone reviewing a watch that actually has a tool purpose which may involve, to a degree, life or death. I have a question to the OP: is the circular indentation to the right of the what appears to be a crank, a cup holder? I know, the question sounds dumb but it sort of has that look. How do pilots stay hydrated when flying? A pack with a long straw? Thermos filled with coffee?
 

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On Christmas Eve I wore a "Pilots Watch" (my Tisell Flieger) figuring the day is hallmarked by a guy flying around the world in a sleigh and thus the Tisell seemed appropriate. It is good to see someone reviewing a watch that actually has a tool purpose which may involve, to a degree, life or death. I have a question to the OP: is the circular indentation to the right of the what appears to be a crank, a cup holder? I know, the question sounds dumb but it sort of has that look. How do pilots stay hydrated when flying? A pack with a long straw? Thermos filled with coffee?
Good questions! The indentation near the crank (which cranks the rudder pedals fore/aft to suit different size legs) is actually the soft cover around the control stick. Keeps debris from going in there and binding the flight controls, which is deadly. Closest I ever came to ejection was due to binding controls off of a carrier touch and go. Close call but pilot unstuck it from the object that had gotten wedged in the way, we were a split second from stall and loss of control.

For hydration, in tactical aircraft we normally have a camelbak type bladder incorporated into our survival vest/torso harness. On long flights I'd also carry a thermos of coffee in my helmet bag. Or two 8 oz Rip It cans in my g-suit pocket if available (in Afghanistan).

Hydration is key because on the carrier flight deck in the summer in Middle East the temp will exceed 125F and your aircraft AC doesn't kick in until engines are online, but is not totally effective until at high power.

Wider zoom photo showing the indentation you were referring to:

Note: pin on the left is not by mistake, in this aircraft you remove the pin from the ejection seat handle and stow it in the canopy handle during flight.
 

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For what ever reason WUS is stuck on Reply with quote mode. Nice photo. I noticed the clock in the jet is roughly 48 seconds behind your watch. I am going with you set your watch to your phone and thereby conclude the jet clock was probably built by a company whose motto is" good enough for government work".

Good questions! The indentation near the crank (which cranks the rudder pedals fore/aft to suit different size legs) is actually the soft cover around the control stick. Keeps debris from going in there and binding the flight controls, which is deadly. Closest I ever came to ejection was due to binding controls off of a carrier touch and go. Close call but pilot unstuck it from the object that had gotten wedged in the way, we were a split second from stall and loss of control.

For hydration, in tactical aircraft we normally have a camelbak type bladder incorporated into our survival vest/torso harness. On long flights I'd also carry a thermos of coffee in my helmet bag. Or two 8 oz Rip It cans in my g-suit pocket if available (in Afghanistan).

Hydration is key because on the carrier flight deck in the summer in Middle East the temp will exceed 125F and your aircraft AC doesn't kick in until engines are online, but is not totally effective until at high power.

Wider zoom photo showing the indentation you were referring to:

Note: pin on the left is not by mistake, in this aircraft you remove the pin from the ejection seat handle and stow it in the canopy handle during flight.
 

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For what ever reason WUS is stuck on Reply with quote mode. Nice photo. I noticed the clock in the jet is roughly 48 seconds behind your watch. I am going with you set your watch to your phone and thereby conclude the jet clock was probably built by a company whose motto is" good enough for government work".
Yeah I was surprised to see the cockpit clock was off, which reinforces my insistence on an accurate watch on the wrist. I'll have to take the time next time to synchronize the aircraft clock to my watch. I'm just glad they put the clock in the dash to begin with.
 

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Excellent review and pics, and thanks for your service! I have a sapphire Navigator on the way to try out. I've had a few of the hesalite versions over the years and while I like the idea and nostalgia of acrylic, they scratch by just looking at them sideways and it always bugged me. The battery hatch is what really sold me however. I've had the back off of a couple of the older models and it's a sketchy affair. Really hard to do without marring the case.

 

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Late to the game but thanks for this review. I'm a prior enlisted (CM1 hoorah Seabees!) newly commissioned officer (ENS) and I'm planning to get one of these for my next deployment. I'm too old for flight programs but I can at least live vicariously and have a cool looking watch. I'm also a fan of the way they did the bezel.

What are your thoughts on the quality of the stock strap? I've read it's quite long and I'm debating if I should order a second nato with the watch.

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Rob


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Late to the game but thanks for this review. I'm a prior enlisted (CM1 hoorah Seabees!) newly commissioned officer (ENS) and I'm planning to get one of these for my next deployment. I'm too old for flight programs but I can at least live vicariously and have a cool looking watch. I'm also a fan of the way they did the bezel.

What are your thoughts on the quality of the stock strap? I've read it's quite long and I'm debating if I should order a second nato with the watch.

Cheers

Rob

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Congrats on your Commission!

The stock strap is actually short compared to regular NATOs I use. I strongly prefer normal NATOs over the style provided with the watch (I like metal keepers much more than the cloth keeper).

I can recommend 3 great sources of NATOs that work for me: Crown&Buckle's premium NATOs are great, I absolutely love ToxicNATOs "Rogue" line, and watchgecko makes some light and slim NATOs that are really long lasting. Although it's tight, the 20mm size is best for this watch (lug width is probably 19.5mm).

You're going to love this watch for general military use. I found recently that, depending on the type of flight, I sometimes really want a chronograph and so I often fly with my Butler J80 quartz chrono (it adds a chrono feature but then I do lose the time zone management and the exceptional tritium lume). But for day to day on deployment, I can't imagine anything better than the Navigator, especially if on a ship crossing time zones.
 

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Congrats on your Commission!

The stock strap is actually short compared to regular NATOs I use. I strongly prefer normal NATOs over the style provided with the watch (I like metal keepers much more than the cloth keeper).

I can recommend 3 great sources of NATOs that work for me: Crown&Buckle's premium NATOs are great, I absolutely love ToxicNATOs "Rogue" line, and watchgecko makes some light and slim NATOs that are really long lasting. Although it's tight, the 20mm size is best for this watch (lug width is probably 19.5mm).

You're going to love this watch for general military use. I found recently that, depending on the type of flight, I sometimes really want a chronograph and so I often fly with my Butler J80 quartz chrono (it adds a chrono feature but then I do lose the time zone management and the exceptional tritium lume). But for day to day on deployment, I can't imagine anything better than the Navigator, especially if on a ship crossing time zones.
This is great info thanks!

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