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Hey there.
here is two Credors that my friend bought from Japanese Yahoo auction.
is these fakes ?
or maybe just a cheap JDM versions of Credor?
 

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In theory, both watches look like post-1981 models (with the "mountain" logo), but... Both lack any markings at the bottom of the dial. No appropriate case markings. Subpar movements, nothing like what you'd expect from Credor even back then (it used to be simply a sub-brand). In my opinion, both are fake. Not pretending to be paritcularly in the know about Seiko/GS/Credor, but the evidence seems pretty damning.
 

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I believe the Credor line was typically associated with the use of precious metals.

So even if it had steel... there would be at least some 18k gold on the watch. It looks like a dial was re-cased into another watch.

As the movement doesn’t match known known Seiko quartz movements and there’s no indication of any precious metal... I’m going to agree with the sentiments from the posters above me.

A decent read if you have time:
https://www.plus9time.com/blog/2018/10/22/credor-brand-introduction-and-history

Also this:
https://www.chrono24.com/magazine/one-company-three-brands-seiko-grand-seiko-credor-p_26453/
 

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Well the first one has a Y121, which is a Hattori/Epson movement that was generally sold to external clients and the aftermarket as replacement movements.
Even if the cases and dials are genuine, (which is doubtful), the movements aren't original to the watch.

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