Ok but I don't like green lume That's the biggest reason I chose a Stowa Flieger Verus instead of a classic flieger. If it glows bright or not doesn't really matter that much to me. I want BGW9 because it makes the white crispy and glows blue=win.The DS30 has much better lume than the other Damaskos. It is quite readable at night. Not a torch by any means but good enough.