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Damasko vs. Sinn

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A year ago I purchased a new Sinn 856, and while it has been a very accurate watch (SW300 movement), I have never really bonded with it. It is rather bland, and the bracelet seems kind of thin for a tool watch. Furthermore, there were some frustrations right out of the box (literally) as Sinn applies Loctite to the bracelet pins before it ships, therefore making it a major PITA to size the bracelet without stripping the tiny slotted screw heads on the pins - which of course I did. I contacted Sinn Customer Service in Germany and they sent my 5 new tegimented pins for free. Great service, but why would the hell do they Loctite the pins before the bracelet is sized?

I am thinking of flipping my 856 and replacing in with a Damasko DA36 on their new bracelet. These two watches are very comparable in size, looks, etc., however, the bracelet on the Damasko seems to be much beefier, and the better designed. Furthermore, I have read here that most WUS seem to prefer Damasko's ice hardened steel to Sinn's tegimented finish.

So before I go down the road of flipping and replacing, I am trolling here for opinions and advice regarding these two models, and these two brands in general.
 
#3 ·
They both have a flieger instrument style look; however, the Damasko has a little more pizzaz with the day/date, yellow second hand and quad lines on the face. I guess was attracts me most is the Damasko bracelet which seems really unique.
 

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I absolutely love my DA36 on the bracelet. No signs of wear whatsoever. It is a solid and unpretentious watch. It uses the standard ETA movement, but mine runs 3 seconds fast per day. On a side note, a fellow in Las Vegas noticed it when I was at the table. I was really surprised that it was recognized.


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Bonding with a watch is really important. I think you have perfectly valid reasons for flipping. It would be easy for me to starting talking up the Sinn because it's a nice watch indeed. But if you know yourself pretty well and you think you'll enjoy wearing the DA36 more, then you probably will right? So I say go for it. That Sinn will make somebody really happy.

I have a black DC56 and I adore the watch. If I'm not wearing dress clothes odds are it's on my wrist. So I just reiterate that bonding is important, and the DA36 is a classic. Maybe it's more obscure than your Speedy, another fine classic. But the Damasko is a classic.
 
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It sounds like your primary interest in design/looks. For that, it is all in the eye of the beholder. I do not think the Sinn looks bland. To me, it is perfectly clean and balanced. The four lines on the Damasko dial are eye sores to me. The only things I would change about the Sinn are making the 12 a triangle and the date being square, not displayed at an angle
 
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To me a mere novice in German tool watches there is no comparison the Damasko has more to take from an old VW ad...and a a play on words 'tragennugen' WEARING ENJOYMENT (basically translates as wearing = tragen and nugen is from vergnugen for enjoyment...if this catches on I will be pissed off...LOL

Now back to being more serious have you seen the new DA38 the blue hands must be to compete with the Stowa IMO...although that corner of the market typically competes with Laco, Steinhart et al. But I think its sharp too.

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I have seen the DA38, and I like it a lot, especially with the blue seamed leather strap that you show. But I prefer bracelets and I cannot find a DA38 on the bracelet anywhere. In some ways I kind of prefer the yellow second hand against the matte black on the DA36. Both are great.
 
#9 ·
If you're a bracelet guy, you can't do better than the Damasko.

Despite the Top-grade movement, I find the hand set a bit too short on the 856.
 
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Without mentioning the tech advantage the Damasko has against the Sinn, and purely going off of interest of aesthetics, the Damasko takes it by a long way. The wrong sized hands, crooked 4:00 date, and smaller size of the Sinn would make it an easy one to pass on for me.
 
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I own a DA373, and got my fiancée a DA36. I have owned a number of watches over the years, and most of them German at that... I have to say that Damasko watches are simply some of the most impressively designed and built timepieces you are likely to find from anywhere, at almost any price point, at this point in time. While they aren't as "pretty" or (for some) as emotionally resonant as some brands with more lively designs (Nomos comes to mind immediately), they are an absolute joy to wear and have the most remarkable feeling of solidity and quality that I have ever encountered in a mechanical watch.

Add to that the private knowledge of how remarkably sophisticated their engineering and manufacturing process is, and it's really hard for me to rank anything even close to within their vein above them!
 
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LOL, so true...I should have stuck with my digital casio.
 
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I have had both Damasko watches, DA=36, Da-46, DC-66Si, and also the Sinn UX. Like them all a lot, but the Damasko Ice Hardened cases are much better then the Sinn Tegimented process. That said, I like the solid Bezel of the Sinn UX SDR that I had the best.

All are fantastic watches and it really comes down to your choice of style, movement, Dial, etc. When I buy another watch, it would likely be the Damasko DK-10. Liked the DA-46, but the DK-10 is larger and takes 22mm straps. And then, there is the amazing Ice Hardened bracelet from Damasko. This is better than what Sinn has, as I think you would not be able to put any marks on that one. I have heard from other Sinners that even the tegimented bracelet will get rub marks at times.

I just wish that Damasko made a version of the DK-10 watch in Quartz. Quartz, in combination with their super tough case would be a fantastic watch, IMHO.

Regards,

Akitadog, from the WET coast of BC Canada
 

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#25 ·
Congratulations with your DA36. I love my 373, my favourite from my collection.

2 notes:

- Often overlooked is that Damasko uses custom printed day and date discs. With nearly every watch with the same ETA movement, the info will be printed traditionally so it fits horizontally at the 3 position.
In the case of Damasko ETA has to print the info off center to make it perfectly fit within the day & date windows below the center line. The reason makes sense, this way Damasko can print the logo info nicely symmetrically above the center line.
I love this attention to detail.

- A remark on the bracelet. I was one of the earliest adopters and I am in general very happy with it.
However I notice 3 "features":
- Two link connections are now set very stiffly in the nicely fitting position around my wrist (that is why I did not quickly notice). The engineering tolerances are very tight, I do think that inevitable micro dust causes this stiffening which I never experienced with looser fitting cheap bracelets. Unscrewing, wiping and putting together again helps.
- while made of the same scratchresistant material, there are now a few tiny shiny spots on the bracelet. I think this happens because these links sometimes come in contact with one of the few objects out there with similar hardness: other links during taking off / putting on the watch.
- while it is the same kind of blasted material, the end links are rounded, this may in some lighting conditions cause a slight impression of colour difference with the case (I think because of varying viewing angles vs the material surface). It is not always visible, rather occasionally. Some very picky people might get irritated though.
 
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I have a Damasko DA-36 and had a Sinn 104. In terms of quality, fit, and finish, the Damasko wins easily. Though the DA-36 is 'toolish' in looks (which appeals to some and not others), it is basically perfect -- zero faults whatsoever to the construction, operation, or timekeeping. My Sinn 104 had a misaligned Day -- on some days the Day and Date were aligned, straight, and centered, and on other days there was a tilt. I was told it is hard to get this right but wonder why a $150 Seiko manages to pull this off without a hitch. I love the design of the 104 but the DA-36 exudes quality in a way that the 104 couldn't match. That said, I love the design of the 104 and would buy it again if Sinn cared enough about the small things and got them right.
 
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After owning a Sinn 856 and now a Damasko DA36, I have to concur that the Damasko is better in terms of fit, finish, and quality control. As I stated in my OP, my Sinn had the link screws secured with Loctite, so when sizing the bracelet it was almost impossible to not strip the tiny slotted screw heads. Even more frustrating, the watch included a screwdriver that was too big for the tiny slotted screws. After stripping three of the screws I had to take the bracelet to the jeweler to remove them, and then I had to order new screws from Sinn. That's just poor attention to detail. Compare that to the amazing engineering and precision of the Damasko bracelet, and the provided Torx tool, and Damasko wins hands down. My Sinn 856 was, however, very accurate and very elegant.
 
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#31 ·
Let the picture speak. Till date not one picture of a scratched Damasko has been seen.

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This is the maximum extent - Scratched Damasko ?

So, still the first scratched Damasko is yet to be seen on the internet.
if i look hard enough i can find a couple pics of the black versions with minor nicks or wear marks around the lug holes.

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Who knows what it took to chip it in the first pic though and those "wear" marks could possibly just wipe off.
i have "scratched" my DA46 a couple times only to realize that it was actually just worn off metal or material from whatever hit it and the watch was still perfect underneath.
 
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I don't know a thing about Damasko and I'm just learning about Sinn and others. I traded for the Sinn 103 A SA (pictured). I can't find one Damasko product that even comes close to appealing to my senses the way this one does. So I wouldn't even consider a Damasko on that alone. But it sounds like they make a fantastic product if you find the looks appealing!!
 
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