Sounds like they are referring to a watch with a 3 BAR or what they often term “everyday use”. That section looks fairly generic.

 

Sounds like they are referring to a watch with a 3 BAR or what they often term "everyday use". That section looks fairly generic.

^^^this.

And yes I have washed my SBGR051 under a running tap, hot water no less, with soap or dish detergent and no problem whatsoever.

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I think that you're all wrong and that we should all just go to wherever this place is where the faucets shoot high pressure jets of water and play around like little children wearing our 100m WR watches.

 

 

Ah more cobblers in instruction manuals!

 

I always use a faucet to wash my watches. How else would one clean them?

 

This is why I was surprised especially for a watch labeled with 100 m water resistance. Still, if not by running water from faucets, you can wash your watch in the pool of water in a wash basin after it's filled. But it's significantly less convenient.

 

That faucet in the picture looks like fire is coming out of it. Are you sure they aren't referring to putting your watch under one of these?

 

Fracking...'tis the future, heating and water all from one tap.

 

and you can't golf with them on either....another rule I'm pretty sure most ignore.

 

Yes I'm coming concerned about GS's anti-shocking capability too.

 

We need Seiko "Diasplash"

 

The faucet warning is standard over-cautiousness by Seiko and GS by extension. We underestimate the amount of pressure generated by running faucet water and showers; Realistically I throw caution to the wind and do it anyway, but you could probably reduce the pressure by pooling water into your cupped hands instead of running it on your watch directly. Anal watch guys might take this as concern, but really Seiko/GS are just covering their bases to reduce liability.

 

Mmmm, been using taps and showers all my life.....not sure the pressure really is enough for an o ring sealed watch to worry about so I think it is a company talking absolute cobblers. They are among us.

 

This situation is highly variable based on the faucet involved. Surely there are some ridiculous faucets that may pose some risk they speak of. But a faucet with pretty standard water pressure should be no problem. What I would call not "standard" is a faucet where you attempt to wash your hands and can't keep water from constantly and violently splashing off your hands and into your body. I have always used running sink water to wash watches, some indeed with quite heavy/rapid flow, with no problems even though I let the water flow straight upon the crown (even with non screw crowns rated to just 50m ... actually I have even done this to cheap watches that just say "water resist" which indicates just a 30m rating). You should be mindful of the age/condition of your gaskets though.

 

I can understand that Seiko is over-cautious on its product performance and has the intention to reduce potential liability. However, what I am thinking is this: If being over-cautious as well as intending to reduce potential liability benefits watch brands, then why wouldn't other brands do so (more specifically, say, why wouldn't Rolex do so?). Why shall a brand be over-cautious and where is the potential liability to reduce anyway? Why does Seiko consider there may be such potential liability to reduce while Rolex does not? Is it possible that Seiko is actually NOT CONFIDENT enough of its water resistance performance under running water from faucets?

I have to say that in terms of marketing this kind of stuff definitely does no good to Seiko/GS’s brand image.

 

I can understand that Seiko is over-cautious on its product performance and has the intention to reduce potential liability. However, what I am thinking is this: If being over-cautious as well as intending to reduce potential liability benefits watch brands, then why wouldn't other brands do so (more specifically, say, why wouldn't Rolex do so?). Why shall a brand be over-cautious and where is the potential liability to reduce anyway? Why does Seiko consider there may be such potential liability to reduce while Rolex does not? Is it possible that Seiko is actually NOT CONFIDENT enough of its water resistance performance under running water from faucets?

I have to say that in terms of marketing this kind of stuff definitely does no good to Seiko/GS's brand image.

I'm pretty sure a company who makes some of the best dive watches in the world knows about water resistance. Their watches have been tested in the real world strapped to a submersible basket. Both Tunas went much deeper than their specs on the dial indicated. It's on YouTube, check it out.

I know it's comparing a dive watch to a dress watch. However, I doubt Seiko forgot about watch resistance in this line and threw a random rating on the dial.

 

Hi Guys

We are talking about a very Japanese company. It doesn’t have to make sense. I work for a Japanese company and have lived in Japan before. Don’t try to apply rational western thinking.

We all know you can wash them under domestic taps.

It’s fun to make fun of the Japanese way though. They know what they are like also.

Berni


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Careful...Coffee may be hot.

 

Read the fine print: "Using your watch to tell the time may void the warranty."

Regards,
Alysandir

 

"Do move slowly while wearing the watch. Sudden movement even on dry land may bring a surge in dynamic pressure and lead to ingress of water vapor."

 

I think that's a generic one they put in...

 

Seiko's manual is written to accommodate the least knowledgable potential buyer. Some that know better (watch enthusiasts), reading that manual, take offense.
The "insults" some perceive are not deliberate.
OTH, we on WUS never (deliberately or otherwise) insult Seiko right?

 

I can understand the OP's confusion, as the warning against using the watches for scuba or saturation diving would apply to all Water Resistant watches 10atm and below.

I still believe it's simply a warning due to undefined variable faucet pressures. It may as well just say not to blast the watch with a particularly absurd powerful stream of water.... but even that is difficult to actually define. And it probably is for the best not to faucet rinse a 3atm watch regardless of flow rate.

 

3atm....rinse away.

 

"Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball."

Regards,
Alysandir

 

Here's another angel for the head of the pin - the Seiko 6R15 manual says "If ”WATER RESISTANT 5 BAR” is inscribed on the case back,
your watch is designed and manufactured to withstand up to 5 bar and is suitable for wearing while swimming, yachting and
taking a shower".

I'd think a shower jet is more forceful than a faucet. But now someone will point out the GS cases aren't as robust as lesser Seikos so we can't assume this would apply to a GS .

Honestly, I think you are losing perspective on this. From now on I'll lurk this thread.

 

5 pages of this (so far), that is what baffles me, not the instruction manual.