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Discussion Starter · #1 · (Edited)
Hey all,

Could you please help with your suggestions for a dive / pilot watch with minimal / no marking rotating bezel?

I'd like something smart-ish with the convenience of a bezel for timing things but without the sporting look, so it's a little under the radar, if that makes sense!

Similar in design to the Breitling Superocean Heritage.

Date complication and budget 拢1000

Thanks in advance

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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
What about the Sinn 104 St Sa?
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I am looking at this in the next couple of weeks when the shop confirms it's in. I really cannot wait to see it in the flesh, so much so I even made a list of reason why it might be my gada watch...
  • Sapphire front and back both with AR.
  • Screw down crown
  • Micro crown guards
  • Resistant to; water (200m), shock, magnetism and low-pressure.
  • Sellita is easily serviceable.
  • Sinn decorated and regulated with claimed improved power reserve and operating within COSC accuracy.
  • 20mm lugs
  • Sinn H-Link or Fine-link bracelets
  • Day / Date
  • Countdown bezel
  • White face softens the sporty asthetic
  • Beautiful partnership of German precision engineering and Swiss watch making

Is it just me or do us watch nerds really do have a problem...
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Discussion Starter · #16 ·
The Sinn 104 definitely a stunner but know from this owner it's the only watch I managed to get magnetized. Twice. So much for the 'anti-magneticism'.
Oh man, what a bummer! Easy fix?

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Discussion Starter · #53 ·
Aside from my Rolex Bluesy, a couple of watches come to mind. First a Blancpain Fifty Fathoms Bathyscaphe and second an IWC Aquatimer. Oh wait, I see this was edited to a 1000 pound max. Son, I guess you're on your own.

Also the IWC with the inboard timing dial.

"Son, I guess you're on your own."


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Discussion Starter · #57 ·
Yes, but I like the bezel from the Airking better, with no numerals. Also I don't like the cyclops. Really, my ideal would be the Airking with a rotating bezel. And decent lume. And 100 of WR.

I'm actually surprised there aren't any dress watches with rotating bezels. They're so useful for meetings and things like that...
You are 100% right, a subtle bezel would be a daily use, hence why I want one! :D

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Discussion Starter · #61 ·
I鈥檇 give Chris Ward a call.
If you do don鈥檛 forget the 拢100 voucher. If there鈥檚 not one valid then the next one will be along in a few days.
Are these normally pop-ups on their website, like in Jura watches etc.?

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Discussion Starter · #67 ·
In going to be one of those annoying people that posts things well over budget but the Breitling Aviator 8 looks right up your street. I've seen them go a fair bit below 拢2k used.

Rotating bez with no markings, well one marking.
Braclet and leather would be ideal for dressing up and down.

Thin enough to slide up a sleeve.

Second choice is the Baltic Aquascaphe as mentioned earlier, I have one on the way to be now.

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This is such a beautiful piece, unfortunately I'm not comfortable with anything upwards of 拢1000 on my wrist. What a stunner though :love:

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Discussion Starter · #77 ·
  • Made in France :Assembly in France
    Case:40 mm diametre, 12.7 mm thickness, 47.5 lug to lug, polished and brushed 316L stainless steel. Anti-magnetic shield ISO764.
    Annual numbered series: 100 pieces in 2022
    Dial:Index and hands with luminescent Super-LumiNova庐.
    Bezel:Unidirectional rotating bezel, anodized aluminum insert, hourly graduation with a recognizable symbol at 12.
    Case back:Open with sapphire caseback
    Movement :Mechanical Swiss automatic winding, caliber P024. 25 rubies. 28,800 vibrations per hour. Power reserve of 38 hours. Tolerance -0/+14 sec/d Power reserve of 44 hours. Precision -0 / + 15 sec per day.
    Glass quality:Domed sapphire, anti-reflective, 3mm thick
    Crown:Screw-down (30ATM) with anodized aluminum insert
    Water resistance: 30ATM, 300 meters
    Strap width: 20mm
    Warranty:24 months
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Oh wow, this is an absolute stunner! 馃槏 Thank You, I'll look into them!
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Discussion Starter · #80 ·
Like I said CW have got a 拢100 voucher code running nearly all the time but they don鈥檛 seen to make a big deal about it on their website. If you decide on a CW you can either subscribe to the Loupe (the CW magazine) for the latest code or PM me.
I just subscribed to the Loupe only yesterday so that will be with me soon hopefully 馃憣
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Discussion Starter · #84 ·
I feel it's currently between these three...
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The Charlie Concordia is to my eyes is designed beautifully and has a real story with adventure proven ruggedness. I won't bump into anyone wearing this piece. It's essentially the closest piece to my original aim.

The CW is arguably the best value proposition, with a brand making some real progress which I wholeheartedly admire.

The Sinn is a financial stretch and arguably the least value proposition of the three. But is a very lovely piece with the German / Swiss collaboration.

Considering ordering all 3 to view in the flesh and decide from there, return what I don't want.

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Discussion Starter · #86 ·
Didn't read every page, but the first page has a lot of bracelets for someone who asked for a dress watch.

OP, how do you square a dress watch and a diver?
I'm after a watch with a timing bezel (diver / pilot) that is more dressy than it is sporty. A rugged piece that doesn't shout about it like Schwarzenegger, more suave like Bond and is within my budget.

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Discussion Starter · #97 ·
New watch day!

Thank you all for the great suggestions.

Today I have taken delivery of a Certina DS PH200m (2020) and I could not be happier 馃槉

I was apprehensive about the 41mm case size (plus a slight bezel overhang) being too big for my 6 1/2" wrist but i think it seems to fit me well.

For those that were interested about the decision, I was eventually enticed by:
  • Certina brand history
  • Certina Double Security (DS) concept
  • PH200m is a modernised re-issue in 2018 and again in 2020 (introduce in 1967)
  • Value proposition (Ceramic bezel, AR sapphire, ETA Powermatic movement, Certina quality as above, 20mm lugs and vintage design.)
  • MOST importantly, how it made me feel when I tried it on.
I just need to resize the bracelet and I'm good to go!

This is exactly what I was looking for 馃槏

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