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There seems to be a slow change in the current emergency frequency to 406 Mhz from 121.5 Mhz. Now this may eventually pose a problem for all us emergency owners. Anyone heard anything from Breitling on how they plan to tackle this predicament?

I was told from a ex-Breitling employee, Robert Graziano (I dunno if anyone here knows him), that Breitling will be recalling all their watches and changing the distress frequency. Can anyone verify this and can does anyone have any idea when they plan to do so? I kind of figured they wouldn't do this till everything was set in stone regarding the frequency change. As of now, according to Transport Canada, they are going to keep both 406 Mhz and 121.5 Mhz. But I can bet that will eventually change.

So for now everything's still kosher but who knows for how long?

*By the way heres the amendment from TC regarding the new emergency frequency

http://www.tc.gc.ca/civilaviation/RegServ/Affairs/carac/NPAs/GOFR/dec03/2003313.htm
 

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This comes up here about every three months or so, for the last 2 years.

The emergency frequency in North American civil aviation is 121.5 mhz (243 mhz for US Military). I've never seen a civilian aircraft set up to receive 406mhz. Newer ELT's and PLB's are set for 406 mhz, and this will be monitored by satellite. In the not too distant future, the satellites will cease monitoring 121.5 mhz (current plan AFAIK). Aircraft will still use 121.5, and will still also monitor it.

While a Breitling Emergency at 406 mhz does sound appealing, from what I've heard, it is not yet feasable to make a suitable transmitter of that size for that frequency. A recall by Breitling? Complete news to me, how reliable are the facts of this former employee? (My information is becomming a bit dated, and there may certainly be new developements I have not heard about).
 

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Well like i said he is a ex.Breitling sales agent for the Eastern United States if I can remember correctly. From what he told me it sounded like he was pretty deep in the company as they were flying him back and forth from HQ. Again don't take what I said in stone though.
 

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Ok, lets try and get this straight.

For any rescue there are generally three phases.

1)ALERT
2)LOCATION
3)RESCUE

It is true that Cospas Sarsat will stop monitoring the 121.5 frequency from Feb 2009. All this will mean is that SARSAT will not play any part within the ALERT phase of the rescue.

However, Breitling have never claimed that the 121.5 Emergency plays any part within the "SARSAT ALERT PHASE".

The 121.5 is purley for localization of the rescue and it will continue to be the most accurate way of doing this. For this reason the 406mhz beacons in fact will operate of two frequencies (406/121.5).
 

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PAUL 12 said:
Ok, lets try and get this straight.

For any rescue there are generally three phases.

1)ALERT
2)LOCATION
3)RESCUE

It is true that Cospas Sarsat will stop monitoring the 121.5 frequency from Feb 2009. All this will mean is that SARSAT will not play any part within the ALERT phase of the rescue.

However, Breitling have never claimed that the 121.5 Emergency plays any part within the "SARSAT ALERT PHASE".

The 121.5 is purley for localization of the rescue and it will continue to be the most accurate way of doing this. For this reason the 406mhz beacons in fact will operate of two frequencies (406/121.5).
good to know. :-!
 

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As T Bone pointed out already, this subject has been discussed several times in the past.

In a (probably vain) effort to answer if for once and for all, here is what information Breitling distributed to their authorized dealers a few months back:



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In view of this statement, I find it doubtful that Breitling would recall and modify all "Emergency" models.

Cheers,
 

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Thank you for that Kurt. A mod should make this a sticky as it is fairly important news, otherwise people are going to keep asking. If I saw it as a sticky on the top I wouldn't have asked it.
 

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msayewich said:
Thank you for that Kurt. A mod should make this a sticky as it is fairly important news, otherwise people are going to keep asking. If I saw it as a sticky on the top I wouldn't have asked it.
That's a great idea!

Done!!
(I guess, SnapIT beat me to it.)

Thank you.
 

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Is there any information when or even if this new transmitter (frequency) actually is built in to new Emergencies?
Is it possible to fit in such a transmitter in this small device?
 

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Thanks for this info.
It was only whilst searching for this sort of info that I actually found this forum.
Whilst I'm here I'd like to make a couple of comments:

Firstly, I think any Emergency owner should receive commission for all the sales we generate. Since I've had mine at least two of my buddies have bought Emergencies and just last week, whilst in the US visiting some very adventurous friends, the parents decided that it would be good for the whole family to get them. They are extreme sports nuts and climb, ski, trek etc etc in many far flung places and all as a family.

Every where I go my watch attracts attention, and the look on peoples faces when I explain what the watch does is simply one of incredularity.

This is the second Emergency I've had, the first one on loan from Breitling themselves, which I regretted giving back immensely.

Watches are my only true vice and several years back I bought myself a beautiful, 18k Blue Faced Submariner, which I adore. However, I honestly don't think I've worn it for at least 12 months. This is purely due to my over protective attitude towards it.

I specifically bought the Emergency as an everyday robust watch with a magic 'umbrella' for that rainy day that I hope never comes.

I've read a few posts on here about its robustness etc and can testify that I treat mine very poorly. Swimming, skiiing, sports etc etc. and I never give it a second thought. As far as I'm concerned the titanium aspect of it makes me feel its indestructable. That said, it looks like the day I bought it. Which I bet wouldn't have been the case with my over protective attitude and my Sub.

All things said and done, I respect the watch and its capabilities and can never see me wearing anything else ever.

A sports watch that creates more interest than a Rolex and yet one that one day may help save my life or one of my loved ones is reason enough.

p.s. for the record, its Orange faced with the regular Titanium bracelet that I swapped out on the day I bought for the Black rubber divers strap.

Thanks for the useful and interesting info on here.
 

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Is there any information when or even if this new transmitter (frequency) actually is built in to new Emergencies?
Is it possible to fit in such a transmitter in this small device?
If you are really interested in SAR issues you should do some research. Everything I have read suggests that 121.5 is the freq. I would prefer. It will allow the resuce to find you if they are relatively near. It would be nice to have a 406 transmitter also but it prob. would not be strong enough to reach the sats. So..... purchase a PLB and use the Emergency as backup if you are taking a journey.
 

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Ognils: So you wear it in the shower etc ?

Since mine says 30M water resist I have not used it in the shower etc, but you have not had a problem with this ?
 

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I thought 30M meant 30M and not just sprinkle proof. Its almost mis-selling.

I do regularly swim in it and even run it under the tap and clean it. I'm going to continue to too. If it breaks then I'll deal with it then.

There is no way the 'public' can be expected to know that 30M means 'don't get it wet'.
 

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I actually spoke to my local Breitling service department and they confirmed that its only light wet proof. Mainly due to the lack of a screw down crown.

The Mission version however, which I consider to be less robust (because its prettier), has a screw down crown and thus, according to the Breitling man, is far more water proof.
 

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Here, Ognils. Once again, from the forum's "articles" section...

I actually spoke to my local Breitling service department and they confirmed that its only light wet proof. Mainly due to the lack of a screw down crown.

The Mission version however, which I consider to be less robust (because its prettier), has a screw down crown and thus, according to the Breitling man, is far more water proof.
you might feel better reading this... https://www.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=38014 :)
Cheers,
Ron
 

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Ron,
It was that thread that I stumbled upon earlier that disappointed me.
Nevertheless its still a great watch.
Thanks.
 

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FWIW I am a USAF flight engineer. Hopefully it will comfort all of you concerned to know that we ALWAYS monitor guard frequency (121.5)when flying. If we hear a beacon we mark it and call it in.

Cheers,

Mike

ps: we used to tune one guard to 121.5 vhf and one 343.0 uhf but that is not necessary now that our RTs are full spectrum ie very high through ultra high all in the same RT.
 
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