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Hi Everyone,

So, I picked up these two Omegas today. Each cost $15. The Bulova was a whopping $3.

Now, my first reaction is the Omegas are fake. I will try to get movement pics to post. Any initial thoughts on authenticity?

The dark faced Omega has signed crown and bracelet. Some patina has formed on the dial. There are brown spots. A little worrying.

The white faced Omega does not have a signed crown or bracelet.

Approximate aqe of the Omegas?

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
 

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If my research is right, the white Omega must be Omega CS (Click Date) model with caliber 565.
Does your watch have quick date set by repeated pulling the crown?
 

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YuiryV, I can't get the hands on the white faced Omega to move to try quick date set, so that function is temporarily out of order!

I don't understand why it is so difficult to find comps, but I am the beneficiary of poor due diligence!
 

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They look real to me, I would guess the white face Omega is late 1960s and the blue one early to mid 1970s, not so sure of the Bulova but looks 60s? What a great deal you got on this lot!
 

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They look ok on the outside. The Bulova 23 is a nice one, I've got a gold and white dialed one myself. Nice watch, though just a little small on my wrist. They were made in the mid 50s through to the mid 60s, or if you want the exact year there should be a date code on the caseback, possibly near the serial number.
 

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Nice score


The Omegas both look real and are before 1973 as they have water proof on the case back and not water resistant(USA and other countries laws were changed relating to if a watch could be called waterproof by the early 1970's)


The blue dial Omega looks like its crown was changed as that model would not have had a cloverleaf crown. Do the watches have the Omega symbol on the middle of the crystal? The white dial one looks good also. Yes the crown is not original but crowns wear out so as it is not a deal breaker that the watches have the wrong crown(at least to me)


The Bulova is from the mid 1950's(most likely a 1957 or 1958) or early 1960's. If you peal the $3 sticker off then you should see a date code denoting what its age is. The watch is from Bulova's Bulova 23 collection. These were well made 23 jewel watches that are very collectable, the watches were adjusted for several position so they were very accurate when they were new. They also feature an attractive dial. The watch came in yellow gold filled, white gold filled and Stainless Steel. If the watch looks like it is stainless but has RGP on the case back then it is white gold filled
 

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Here are movement photos. Definitely legitimate.

YuiryV was right about the white faced omega being a Cal. 565. Date of manufacture?

The blue faced omega is apparently a generic movement. I can't ID the Cal. Thoughts?

Clearly, some moisture has worked its way into the blue faced omega movement, but corrosion appears minimal. This might also explain he brown spotting on dial. Probably rust. I suppose this could be part of its charm now or one could replace the dial.

The white faced omega is growing on me and will probably become my first vintage dress watch.

I will probably sell the blue faced omega as I cant afford to have both overhauled! Besides, the white one looks like it would be less work to service.

The Bulova is a nice 23 jewels movement with 6 adjustments. I'd keep, but it's too small for my wrist.

Enough blabbing from me. I'm still need coming down from the adrenaline rush.

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Hello


The blue dial watch has a Cal.1481. The Cal number is near the balance.


This movement was created by Omega and Tissot as a joint effort.


It is actually a good movement but considered a entry level movement




https://www.watchuseek.com/f20/omega-cal-1480-1481-forgotten-movement-740850.html


As the first year the movement was offered was in 1972. The oldest your watch can be is from 1972


I like the white better. as it has the ability to be dressed up or down with a strap or bracelet due to having regular lugs. The blue dial Omega is stuck with that bracelet.


As for the Bulova, I love looks and style of the crab legs but a lot of folks found them small. I can wear it comfortably


Good luck with your watches
 

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Journeyforce et al.,

Thank you guys for the information. This forum is a wealth of knowledge.

Final question:

If I was to look for a signed bracelet for the Cal. 565 white faced Omega, does anyone know or have a photo of the correct bracelet?

i might end up going the leather band route, but am curious to see whether original signed bracelets are floating around and what they cost.

Thanks again for all the feedback.

Oh, when the Cal. 565 is serviced and spruced up, I will post a photo.
 

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The metal band would have most likely looked like the one on this Seamaster 565.

But I think a lot of them came on a leather strap. Between you and me the vintage Omega watches look more classy on a leather strap. Here is my 1950's Seamaster with a leather strap.
 

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I recently found a brand new, from 1960 Bulova 23 Jewel. It was never sold and works perfectly. I may sell it because it's sort of small but it would make a great ladies watch.

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congrats on your finds
 

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I am very pleased with the outcome. The Omega is ticking happily away on my wrist. I noticed it was running fast (10 seconds fast) on my wrist after 12 hours. I decided to put the face down last night and was pleasantly surprised to see that after 10 hours face down it was only 1.5 seconds fast. It's nifty to be able to regulate speed just by changing its nighttime position.
 
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