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Morning


I'd like little assistance with an old Seamaster. (sorry about size of photos... am at work and cannot resize)

I've recently dug out an old watch that was left to my by my grandmother. I believe, prior to her having it, it was my grandfathers. He passed away prior to 1969, so that may give a starting date.


I've looked around on line and cannot see any other Seamasters like it. It appears a lot plainer than other watches.

You can see the details in the photos, but to summarise it is stainless steel with a white face. The only writing on it is Omega, Automatic, Seamaster and Swiss Made T.

I don't believe the band is original.


I have not popped the back off, but the mechanism seems to be working well. It had been in a draw for years, but upon picking it up it started moving again (although it apparently stopped overnight while on the bedside table).


Do you have to keep the watch moving to keep the mechanism going? The watch 'rattles' when shaken.


If it doesn't immediately scream FAKE, then I will take it to a watch expert and see what's under the cover. It just seems a little too simple. And I've read a few posts that call into question the closed 6 and 9.


Any guidance appreciated.

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Hello, I think the watch is an authentic Omega Seamaster. Of course you have to inspect the movement to be a 100% sure. I do have a suspicion that the dial may not be original. The dial does not have a gold, applied Omega. I think that was fairly typical for Seamasters of that period. If the movement makes a bump in side the case, chances are you have a "bumper movement".
 

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Thanks Kingsrider
I ended up taking it to a Watch Specialist on the way home.
They advised it is a genuine Seamaster. When I queried its simplicity, they advised that there were dress versions.
He popped the back off form me and we got the details. Inside looks a hell of a lot better than outside.
I have not had a chance to look into the serials very much, but a very cursory review would indicate it is a mid 60's model.
Which fits with the timing of the previous owners.
The Movement is 552 and the serial is 2420 3115.
I'm pleasantly surprised. :)
 

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Watch genuine - dial looks a rework to me, but maybe just distressed
 

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I have almost the same watch. Mine's a 1963 with a date window. the dial may have been "reworked" but it doesn't really bother me. The inside is pristine and I love it.

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Excellent authentic piece, untouched original dial, replace the crystal-costs just a few bucks and you will see how it comes back to life immediately. Make sure to service the movement before using the watch btw. thats a great calibre you got....and put on a nice leather strap instead of the flexi;-)

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That was my first impression too but its guaranteed just the scratched crystal....
Thanks your explanation, the lumed dots is what made me 'cover' myself on dial.

Thanks again
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Thanks for the feedback everyone.



Looking at mharris660's pic, it looks like the watch will come up quite nicely.


With regard to the dial, it looks like it is in reasonable nick. However it has small 'pimple' like growths on it (you can see the spots on the second pic). Like calcification.
The guy in the shop suggested it could be due to humidity damage. Definately not water damage. Given my grandparents lived in tropical North Queensland (Rockhampton, Australia), that explanation fits pretty well.


Saxoo and mharris660 may have answered my next question already. Which band?

The watch guy suggested leather, which I think would probably look quite nice. I've seen some pics online with a metal band that looked ok too (better than the flexi it currently sports).

Would this style originally have had a leather band?


With regards to restore/service/clean. Is there anything I should/shouldn't do?

From memory, the guy in the shop said they could quite often just polish the lens back into good nick. But mine has some reasonable cracks in it (well, he thought they were big... they look hairline to me) and he thought it would need replacing.

He said internally it looks great. Just a "grease and oil change", bit of a clean and adjust/replace the main spring.


He mentioned an ultrasonic clean and bit of a polish for the case.


With regard to the face, hands and lume he didn't really go into much detail. Is it best to just give them a bit of a clean and leave them alone? Or 'restore'

Oh and the seal is pretty much just dust proof at present. But they'd restore that to 'water resistant'. Not that it would be going for a swim, but it would be nice in case of accidents.


Whilst the restore/service/clean is a little exy, I think it will be nice to breath life into it again and give it another outing.

(If that restoration question has already been fielded elsewhere, could you point me in the right direction? I imagine it is asked a lot!)


Saxoo, what do you mean by "Crystal". Is that the plexiglass lens on front? Or is there a crystal inside (the quartz that is associated with watches)? Can't say I've looked that much at watches before.
 

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A nice leather band will do it, check out Hirsch, good quality big variety of straps...
Yes, these little points are patina on the dial, no worries about,thats normal. You asked what to restore -do not touch the dial and neither the lume imo, from the pics it looks like the lume on the hands had been redone at some point but can't tell for sure.
Yes,polishing is a good idea if the glass-crystal-plexi is not old but as you say it has already "crystalisation"-the little hairline cracks which appears with age and it gets also a bit discoloured. Just make sure you find another glass with the same chrome tension ring and same shape like this and its good to go, there's no point in keeping old glasses as these are normal wear parts that get replaced every x years during the watches life.
No, its not quartz crystal, I meant the glass,plexi,lens or even hesalite as omega calls it, we're from all over the world here on the forums so we have different terms for it, I found crystal to be the most used in converstaions.
Regarding polishing the case, don't know what to suggest, personally I never polish watches, even these dresswatches, I like how they are with their scratches and wear. You have to take into account that every polishing takes a bit from the edges-rounds them and also takes from its collectable value(but thats arguable).
For service -cleaning,oiling,regulating, put in a new mainspring and I'm sure they check all the parts if something need to be replaced, its not too hard to find parts for these calibers and with a little luck and research you can source most of them from old stocks for half or third prices compared to wholesales.

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Thanks Saxoo,


I don't know enough about it's history to say if it has been retouched. I wouldn't have thought Granddad had it long enough and I'd be surprised if Nana would have bothered getting it 'touched up'.

But she may have. Who knows.


I'll hunt down a nice leather band for it and get it all cleaned up. I just thought it was a cheap, battered old watch with a little personal history.

Thank you (all) for your assistance.

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Leather is probably what it was shipped with and I have an original NIB Omega leather band but I put a vintage speidel twist band on it because it really gives it a period look. My thoughts were this, while they may have shipped with leather thousands of people during that time went for an aftermarket band like Speidel and Kreisler. I would love to have a real, vintage NIB Kreisler band on mine but all I could find was a Speidel.
Thanks for the feedback everyone.



Looking at mharris660's pic, it looks like the watch will come up quite nicely.


With regard to the dial, it looks like it is in reasonable nick. However it has small 'pimple' like growths on it (you can see the spots on the second pic). Like calcification.
The guy in the shop suggested it could be due to humidity damage. Definately not water damage. Given my grandparents lived in tropical North Queensland (Rockhampton, Australia), that explanation fits pretty well.


Saxoo and mharris660 may have answered my next question already. Which band?

The watch guy suggested leather, which I think would probably look quite nice. I've seen some pics online with a metal band that looked ok too (better than the flexi it currently sports).

Would this style originally have had a leather band?


With regards to restore/service/clean. Is there anything I should/shouldn't do?

From memory, the guy in the shop said they could quite often just polish the lens back into good nick. But mine has some reasonable cracks in it (well, he thought they were big... they look hairline to me) and he thought it would need replacing.

He said internally it looks great. Just a "grease and oil change", bit of a clean and adjust/replace the main spring.


He mentioned an ultrasonic clean and bit of a polish for the case.


With regard to the face, hands and lume he didn't really go into much detail. Is it best to just give them a bit of a clean and leave them alone? Or 'restore'

Oh and the seal is pretty much just dust proof at present. But they'd restore that to 'water resistant'. Not that it would be going for a swim, but it would be nice in case of accidents.


Whilst the restore/service/clean is a little exy, I think it will be nice to breath life into it again and give it another outing.

(If that restoration question has already been fielded elsewhere, could you point me in the right direction? I imagine it is asked a lot!)


Saxoo, what do you mean by "Crystal". Is that the plexiglass lens on front? Or is there a crystal inside (the quartz that is associated with watches)? Can't say I've looked that much at watches before.
 

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Thanks MHarris660.
I like the brown leather and silver metal combination.
Now I guess I start on my "Watch band educational journey".

Thanks for your input.
 
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