I've purchased two turtles on Ebay BNIB over the past year and a half or so. Both were under $275.Please show me where they are going for way under 300 BNIB all day long. Also I’d say Orient definitely is competition to the Turtle
I own a Kamasu as well and the turtle is significantly more robust. I know which one I’d turn to for true beater duty. I’ve never handled a triton or saturation diver though. I imagine they’re pretty tough. Also, please don't take this personally but three months ago you posted asking for recommendations for your "first watch." Given your limited experience, it's unclear how you can make valid comparisons backed up by experience.