[Nemo_Sandman]

I'm trying to decide between the Fenix 6 titanium or the fr 945. I think the case is about the same size but I know the Fenix is heavier. Do you find the Fenix 6 to be ok for weight training type workouts ?

For weight training? The heavier the better.

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[GrussGott]

I'm trying to decide between the Fenix 6 titanium or the fr 945. I think the case is about the same size but I know the Fenix is heavier. Do you find the Fenix 6 to be ok for weight training type workouts ?

I'm looking at the same thing ...

The forerunner 945 47mm case + strap = 50g

Fenix 6 Ti 47mm case-only = 49g
however with some math, the straps look to be about 25-30g, be they rubber or Titanium so ...

* Forerunner 945 47mm case = 49g
* Ti Fenix 6 47mm sapphire rubber strap = 72g (same screen size as forerunner)
* Ti Fenix 6 51mm non-sapphire rubber strap = 82g

So, the Fenix 6 Ti is at least 44% heavier than the 945, and that's a lot, so I'd say it depends on the type of weight training you do; if you're lifting heavy mostly then the F6 is fine. If you're doing explosive training and/or crossfit type of stuff, you'll want the 945 ... however I'd say in the latter case you're going to want a chest strap either way (or an arm strap like the Polar OH, Scosche Rhythm 24, or Wahoo Tickr; I prefer the Polar and I like the Polar Flow app).

EDIT: the Garmin Instinct is only $200, has most features, and is 52g -- easily the best value fitness watch

 

[shiftear]

I'm trying to decide between the Fenix 6 titanium or the fr 945. I think the case is about the same size but I know the Fenix is heavier. Do you find the Fenix 6 to be ok for weight training type workouts ?

I have the Fenix 6 Sapphire in steel. I noticed the watch on my wrist for maybe 2 days then it dissapeared. I run and I lift weights by the way, with my usage I get around 8-9 days of battery life.

 

[Singlewingcoach]

I currently have the Instinct. May just stick with it but i'd like to be able to access garmin iq for watch faces etc.

 

[MissileExpert]

I'm looking at the same thing ...

The forerunner 945 47mm case + strap = 50g

Fenix 6 Ti 47mm case-only = 49g
however with some math, the straps look to be about 25-30g, be they rubber or Titanium so ...

* Forerunner 945 47mm case = 49g
* Ti Fenix 6 47mm sapphire rubber strap = 72g (same screen size as forerunner)
* Ti Fenix 6 51mm non-sapphire rubber strap = 82g

So, the Fenix 6 Ti is at least 44% heavier than the 945, and that's a lot, so I'd say it depends on the type of weight training you do; if you're lifting heavy mostly then the F6 is fine. If you're doing explosive training and/or crossfit type of stuff, you'll want the 945 ... however I'd say in the latter case you're going to want a chest strap either way (or an arm strap like the Polar OH, Scosche Rhythm 24, or Wahoo Tickr; I prefer the Polar and I like the Polar Flow app).

EDIT: the Garmin Instinct is only $200, has most features, and is 52g -- easily the best value fitness watch

I'm kinda doubting that the less than 0.1 lb difference is going to ruin anyone's weight training routine.

 

[GrussGott]

I'm kinda doubting that the less than 0.1 lb difference is going to ruin anyone's weight training routine.

It doesn't ruin your routine, it ruins your data:

When one does explosive movements, especially arm movements like, say, olympic lifts, heavier watches are notorious for HR dropouts since the heavier the watch, the more momentum it generates (p=mv, where 'm'=mass), thus the greater probability of drop-outs when the HR sensor loses wrist contact at the top of the lift. There also the flexing muscles / tendons in the wrist that throw off the sensor.

That's why chest straps work best - even armband HR straps like the polar OH can have the sensor flip when your muscles flex during an explosive lift.

It's for a similar reason that Garmin makes the Garmin Swim chest strap which has sticky stuff on it to keep it in place during the relatively violent kick-turns.

 

[Nemo_Sandman]

It doesn't ruin your routine, it ruins your data:

When one does explosive movements, especially arm movements like, say, olympic lifts, heavier watches are notorious for HR dropouts since the heavier the watch, the more momentum it generates (p=mv, where 'm'=mass), thus the greater probability of drop-outs when the HR sensor loses wrist contact at the top of the lift. There also the flexing muscles / tendons in the wrist that throw off the sensor.

That's why chest straps work best - even armband HR straps like the polar OH can have the sensor flip when your muscles flex during an explosive lift.

It's for a similar reason that Garmin makes the Garmin Swim chest strap which has sticky stuff on it to keep it in place during the relatively violent kick-turns.

Buy a Forerunner.

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[Nemo_Sandman]

Re: Fenix 6 (Solar?) & Tactical Garmin Instinct

Heavy titanium for my explosive mouvement of the day.
And yes when doing Pak Mei Kung Fu I have never worn any watch but the Garmin Instinct for heart rate monitoring. It is 'that' light.
And it was only during the first hour.
And lucky me it was not Wing Chun...

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[Nemo_Sandman]

Re: Fenix 6 (Solar?) & Tactical Garmin Instinct

I currently have the Instinct. May just stick with it but i'd like to be able to access garmin iq for watch faces etc.

You know, watchfaces on the Garmin Instinct are much better than 98% of those found on Garmin IQ Store.


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[Odie]

Re: Fenix 6 (Solar?) & Tactical Garmin Instinct

You know, watchfaces on the Garmin Instinct are much better than 98% of those found on Garmin IQ Store.


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And....aren't problematic like a lot of them are in the CIQ store. My 6x Solar has the default watch face and am perfectly happy.

The Instinct not connecting to the CIQ store is one of the best things about it.

 

[GrussGott]

Re: Fenix 6 (Solar?) & Tactical Garmin Instinct

The Instinct not connecting to the CIQ store is one of the best things about it.

@Odie, I think you convinced me to start with the Instinct and then go from there ... I know the v2 might be coming out soon, but at $199 it's a great deal so not a lot lost even if the new ones come out

 

[Odie]

Yup and even when the v2 comes out, it will probably be $329+ because it will have the new HR sensor (probably PulseOX as well), new Sony Chip system, etc.

If it wasn’t for the Mapping on the F6 series (and the additional functionality from DEM mapping and Compass Bearing Lock, is wear my Tactical Instinct 24/7.

 

[Nemo_Sandman]

Major Update (for me) on Beta 5.74 release !!

Time Display in Stopwatch mode !!!! At last !!!

https://forums.garmin.com/outdoor-recreation/outdoor-recreation/f/fenix-6-series/211587/fenix-6-series---5-74-beta-release

Very new synthetic view in Clock. Very "Garmin Instinct" design IMHO.
It works great on the Alarm Menu.
I miss the analogic view of the time zones and the bigger fonts on the multi timer display.
But this is minor compared to... TOD in the Stopwatch !!

I've even made a custom activity with TOD and Timer on the same display but it was battery consuming. SO really this is really something I was looking forward to.

 

[Nemo_Sandman]

And a new watchface with big minutes.

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[Odie]

Fenix 6 (Solar?) & Tactical Garmin Instinct

I haven't been to the forum in a few days, so I didn't know about the update, thanks Nemo!

Can you post a picture of the Time in SW mode and what you're talking about with the new clock view? I'm running a battery test right now and am 15 days into it on 5.00 so I want to finish that first before I download anything new.

 

[gaijin]

Re: Fenix 6 (Solar?) & Tactical Garmin Instinct

I haven't been to the forum in a few days, so I didn't know about the update, thanks Nemo!

Can you post a picture of the Time in SW mode and what you're talking about with the new clock view? I'm running a battery test right now and am 15 days into it on 5.00 so I want to finish that first before I download anything new.

I can help with the stopwatch part:

Time is at top.

HTH

 

[Nemo_Sandman]

Cash....

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[Nemo_Sandman]

A 17 hours timing and all the new 'Clock' ergos and displays.

Oh and you check the general menu you can see the amount of timing if the stopwatch is running...
I should have pictured it also...

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[Singlewingcoach]

Pretty sure i'm fixing to pull the trigger on the 6 titanium. I don't need it but I sure want it. How does the hrm on the fenix 6 compare in accuracy to the Instinct? To me the Instinct is not good at least compared to the AW4.

 

[Singlewingcoach]

Yup and even when the v2 comes out, it will probably be $329+ because it will have the new HR sensor (probably PulseOX as well), new Sony Chip system, etc.

If it wasn't for the Mapping on the F6 series (and the additional functionality from DEM mapping and Compass Bearing Lock, is wear my Tactical Instinct 24/7.

How would you say the fenix 6 hrm compares to the instinct? I know all wrist monitors are kinda iffy but my instinct is terrible compared to my AW 4 hrm. Mine will show resting heart rate on the rower or indoor bike even if i'm about to stroke. Is the F6 hrm any better?