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How would you say the fenix 6 hrm compares to the instinct? I know all wrist monitors are kinda iffy but my instinct is terrible compared to my AW 4 hrm. Mine will show resting heart rate on the rower or indoor bike even if i'm about to stroke. Is the F6 hrm any better?
Since the last beta yes it is.

And battery is now 0.2% per hour on my Fenix 6 Pro.
 

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Fenix 6 (Solar?) & Tactical Garmin Instinct

How would you say the fenix 6 hrm compares to the instinct? I know all wrist monitors are kinda iffy but my instinct is terrible compared to my AW 4 hrm. Mine will show resting heart rate on the rower or indoor bike even if i'm about to stroke. Is the F6 hrm any better?
I've never had an issue with my HR but the last beta 5.74 seems to fix other people's problems. That said, you're always going to get a more accurate reading with a Cheat HRM but IMO, the Fenix series is a solid lineup of watches.

CES is this week, so maybe wait until Friday to see if Garmin comes out with anything (Fenix 6 sport...but is highly doubtful as this screams an August release...but your never know) new.
 

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Re: Fenix 6 (Solar?) & Tactical Garmin Instinct

How would you say the fenix 6 hrm compares to the instinct? I know all wrist monitors are kinda iffy but my instinct is terrible compared to my AW 4 hrm. Mine will show resting heart rate on the rower or indoor bike even if i'm about to stroke. Is the F6 hrm any better?
I've never had an issue with my HR but the last beta 5.74 seems to fix other people's problems. That said, you're always going to get a more accurate reading with a Cheat HRM but IMO, the Fenix series is a solid lineup of watches.

CES is this week, so maybe wait until Friday to see if Garmin comes out with anything (Fenix 6 sport...but is highly doubtful as this screams an August release...but your never know) new.
I'm waiting for CES, then I think i'll go with the Instinct ... I'm interested to see if Garmin does the new Fenix with OLED; they should, nobody cares about battery life. Give me OLED-Ti for the win.

On HRM, can't speak from experience, but can tell you the testing i've seen: Apple 4 is industry leading, period. Apple 5 not so much, they compromised for other features, that's too bad. Apple 5 is going to be about the same as Fenix/Instinct sensor.

Ultimately HRM comes down to a few things: the sensor, the software, the contact. It may be that the Apple 4 just plain fits you better in addition to having better sensor/software.

My 2 cents is to get an arm strap like the Polar OH: they're cheap, super accurate, lots of features, portable to any device, easy-to-use. I wouldn't count on wrist HRM for serious data use, just my 2 cents.
 

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Oh, I'm pretty sure the next Fenix (and/or Marq) will have an OLED option cause the "fenix design" is $$ - Gamin ain't in the business of selling high design principles.
Blah blah blah...

Oled means backlight. They made the Venu with Oled and this is a very different design than the Fenix.

You don't need backlight with Fenix or Instinct and this is mandatory to use those tool watches without any battery consuming backlight. This is mandatory for a good outdoor watch.
Under the sun who need any oled display burning high and draining the battery ??

But why I'm wasting my time ?
As I remember you don't use any Fenix yet and worst, you don't own any Fenix or Instinct, do you ?
So really you cannot understand what it is all about.
 

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Got the Fenix 6 titanium 47mm. Love, love love the fit, faces, funtions,etc. but the weather sucks. Simply will not update like my instinct was. Called garmin and evidently its a known issue and they are working on it. If garmin could ever have the reliability/ workability of apple they would take over the watch industry. JMO but its just bad to have as many rinky dink problems as garmin devices have. The majority of the funtions work but it seems there is always something. Hoping it gets fixed before my 30 day return come up because it has potential to be perfect.
 

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Got the Fenix 6 titanium 47mm. Love, love love the fit, faces, funtions,etc. but the weather sucks. Simply will not update like my instinct was. Called garmin and evidently its a known issue and they are working on it. If garmin could ever have the reliability/ workability of apple they would take over the watch industry. JMO but its just bad to have as many rinky dink problems as garmin devices have. The majority of the funtions work but it seems there is always something. Hoping it gets fixed before my 30 day return come up because it has potential to be perfect.
Weather has always been finicky, but there are a couple of things you can do to make the Weather Widget a bit more reliable:

1. Record a short Activity that uses GPS and then save it. You can delete it later. This assures the watch "knows" where it is so it can access weather info from the nearest weather station.

2. Make sure the Garmin Connect App on your phone is open in the background and not closed or timed out. On iPhone this is easy, but I understand on Android one must assure that battery management doesn't automatically shut the App down.

3. Make sure your watch is connected to your phone.

Even when working perfectly, the weather info in the widget may not be accurate. For example, the nearest weather station to my home location is an airport 18 miles away and 2300 feet lower than my home location. This results in a lot of discrepancy between reported and actual weather. When I travel nearer a weather station, however, for example when I go to Las Vegas, weather info is spot on. So, basically, YMMV.

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i've done all that to no avail. I will keep it a little bit longer but I can't see paying that kind of money for a top of the line outdoor watch that supposed to be making me feel like a modern day danial boone and can't give me the weather LOL!
Whenever I need accurate weather info, I look at one of several excellent weather apps on my phone - after all, my phone has to be with me anyway for the weather widget to work on the watch... Optimal? Of course not. Dealbreaker? Not for me, but of course, YMMV.

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You don't need backlight with Fenix or Instinct and this is mandatory to use those tool watches without any battery consuming backlight. This is mandatory for a good outdoor watch ... But why I'm wasting my time ? So really you cannot understand what it is all about.
Wow Nemo, kinda harsh, apologies if I hit a sensitive spot; I completely understand the original Fenix "outdoor" target market and resulting product design, but that time is clearly over and here's how we know, first the facts:

(1.) Garmin has all of your GPS, HR, and other data to mine - Garmin knows if you're an outdoorsman ... or not
They know how much of an outdoorsman you are (or aren't), they know how often you overnight away from power, how often you run an ultra-marathon, how many hours you're typically awake, etc., and they segment their customers by use-case type and by number.

(2.) Garmin has all of their sales data - they know who their existing and new Fenix (and other) buyers are
Garmin knows which customers are re-upping, and who's leaving, who the super-users are, and they can segment them by type and number. They know where Fenix growth is coming from (and it's not from through-hikers and ultra-marathoners - it's from corporate bozos sitting next to a power outlet ... (but they WANT to be in the woods)

(3.) Garmin is using a rapid product development, iterate & pivot model
Garmin's products, and product lines, are constantly growing and morphing; further Garmin is clearly beta testing niches: Instinct, Swim, Venu, Marq, Forerunner, et al; AND they're beta testing hardware: solar, durability, swim sensor, OLED display; as well as software features

In short, the Garmin Fenix line is now a premium smart watch, with the Marq being ultra-premium, which means the transflective displays no longer fit that customer segment - so Garmin's testing AMOLED displays that will eventually find they way to Fenix and Marq watches to compete with Apple's Retina displays. (read or watch any Marq review: they're all mention disappointment with the display)

Their fitness lines (forerunner, swim, vivofit, etc) will likely keep the lightweight cases and high-battery-life transflective displays

And that leaves the Instinct (and various new! iterations) as their "outdoor" / rugged line - maybe we'll see an Instinct color* transflective?

The danger for Garmin is quality control and customer support ... but it's their market to lose now though, they're killin it.

*due to fragility of egos preventing any hint of interesting discussion, this post has edited with this single missed word to ensure nobody here loses their shiit over ridiculousness, degrading this thread into useless memes, accusations, and name-calling like the rest of the internet. Sure, we could listen and exchange ideas but why do that when there's poop to fling!
 

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And that leaves the Instinct (and various new! iterations) as their "outdoor" / rugged line - maybe we'll see an Instinct transflective?
If you owned an Instinct, you would already know that it has a transflective display. From the specs:

DISPLAY TYPE monochrome, sunlight-visible, transflective memory-in-pixel (MIP)

As for the rest of your post:



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If you owned an Instinct, you would already know that it has a transflective display.
If you'd read my post you'd understand I know that. (plus, since when does ownership make one a hardware expert? )

Also, holy crap are you guys fragile! FYI I didn't poop in your ice cream:

You're all super smart consumers who made stellar choices despite a complex marketplace; nevertheless you persevered, purchasing a flawless yet purposely designed outdoorsman's / athlete's timepiece, because that's who you are and the kind of purpose built product you need. Yay for Garmin, but better, yay for you! See? I'm on the cult bus!

As for the rest of my post, what exactly are you disagreeing with? Or is that too reasonable a question and it was more you spotted a chance to fling some meme poop and took it?

Personally I'd prefer the former but if everyone wants to take this thread in the latter direction, I'm game!
 
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