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I prefer a thick, gel ink, and my favorite is the uni-ball 207 Impact 1.0mm refill. Unfortunately, that refill does not fit my Mont Blanc Starwalker.

I purchased some Monteverde gel refills, and while they write nicely they are just a notch below the uni-balls.

Does anyone know of a solution? I’d love to get that 207 ink into a refill that fits. And yes, I appreciate the absurdity of owning an overpriced ballpoint that doesn’t fit the refills I like, haha. What can I say, it’s a sharp pen!




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What's the problem exactly?
Out of the box, only the Mont Blanc or Monteverde refills will fit the starwalker. Curious if there’s a mod or some other technique that would make the uniball work


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I also wanted to use gel refill in my MB ballpoint and tried modding various refills - G2, Energel, and Uniball - to no avail. Nothing would fit other than Monteverde Gel refill you've tried already.
 

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For alternatives try googling something like "gel refill compatibility"...there are several sites on the net, often with big online refill suppliers, that provide a cross reference.

Unfortunately, it looks like the responders are correct; MB or Montegrappa only. Which makes me think that Montegrappa is making the pen...or perhaps the refill...for MB.

Whether a different refill will work is gonna be based on shape...thickness, length, length of the shaft vs. the barrel of the refill. MAYBE something will work but probably not.
 

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I also wanted to use gel refill in my MB ballpoint and tried modding various refills - G2, Energel, and Uniball - to no avail. Nothing would fit other than Monteverde Gel refill you've tried already.
Alright, at least I’m not alone on this. It’s probably not worth the trouble and mess for the incremental improvement, but I wonder if it’s feasible to get ink from the other refill into the Monteverde cartridge. Off to do more research...


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For alternatives try googling something like "gel refill compatibility"...there are several sites on the net, often with big online refill suppliers, that provide a cross reference.

Unfortunately, it looks like the responders are correct; MB or Montegrappa only. Which makes me think that Montegrappa is making the pen...or perhaps the refill...for MB.

Whether a different refill will work is gonna be based on shape...thickness, length, length of the shaft vs. the barrel of the refill. MAYBE something will work but probably not.
Appreciate the thoughts!


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Whether a different refill will work is gonna be based on shape...thickness, length, length of the shaft vs. the barrel of the refill. MAYBE something will work but probably not.
That's what I meant by "what's the problem exactly". If it's just the length, get a knife and cut the plastic refill down to the proper length. But the 'nose' shapes are different too, so depending on how the internals of the pen tip are shaped the gel refill may bottom out before the tip of the cartridge actually gets through and out the tip of the pen. And if that's the case, you're SOL. If the cartridge will fit through the pen tip, and it's a clicky pen, you'll need a shorter spring too.

I know people take MB rollerball refills and trim just a bit off the plastic endcap and then they'll fit in any pen that takes a Pilot G2 refill, which is the same size/shape as the pictured Uniball refill. But the MB rollerball refills look different than the ballpoint.

That ballpoint refill looks more like a Parker style refill, and there are gel options for those as well...so maybe you could finagle one of them to fit.

And that's pretty much the entirety of my knowledge on MB pens LOL. I never saw the appeal of a pen costing a few hundred bucks that's made of plastic so I never paid them any attention.
 

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That's what I meant by "what's the problem exactly". If it's just the length, get a knife and cut the plastic refill down to the proper length. But the 'nose' shapes are different too, so depending on how the internals of the pen tip are shaped the gel refill may bottom out before the tip of the cartridge actually gets through and out the tip of the pen. And if that's the case, you're SOL. If the cartridge will fit through the pen tip, and it's a clicky pen, you'll need a shorter spring too.

I know people take MB rollerball refills and trim just a bit off the plastic endcap and then they'll fit in any pen that takes a Pilot G2 refill, which is the same size/shape as the pictured Uniball refill. But the MB rollerball refills look different than the ballpoint.

That ballpoint refill looks more like a Parker style refill, and there are gel options for those as well...so maybe you could finagle one of them to fit.

And that's pretty much the entirety of my knowledge on MB pens LOL. I never saw the appeal of a pen costing a few hundred bucks that's made of plastic so I never paid them any attention.
Precious resin! Precious resin! Haha, yes it is objectively silly, but I do write a lot for work and enjoy the pen.

Yeah, the issue is the nose shape so trimming it down does nothing.


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