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Flieger Bronze Vintage 36 arrived today!

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Bear in mind this is only day 1 but I'm confident this is a sure keeper

The leather strap is very nice, thick and soft but a little too thick for my liking not that I'd be wearing it anyway as prefer rubber, so swapped over the bronze buckle to the Hirsch pure natural rubber I had set aside for this.

Initial thoughts after the first day... Certainly a finely made piece of kit. The bronze finish has been done by hand and whatever treatment they give it they say won't further oxidise in normal use but may react a little bit depending on what liquid it comes into contact with. A little annoying the strap buckle did not undergo the same treatment so will have to let that age over time, nothing major.

The movement (Selita SW215-1 Top grade) winding action is nice and well damped although the clicking ratchet sound as you wind is not as loud as the one in the Hamilton (Hamilton H-50). It is a very nice looking movement though as the photos will show and Stowa have removed the ghost position when you opt for no-date which is nice, was fully expecting a ghost position like on the Laco (Miyota 8315) since no mention of its removal online anywhere, unless this is a recent thing.

Even though the lume is old radium for the day colour, it hasn't affected the luminosity of the C3 in darkness, seems to be as bright as the bare C3 on the Laco which seems to last a fair while.

The size and weight is almost perfect for me. Nice having a thinner case.

Interesting observation on the domed sapphire, the way reflections move around on the surface is different to any other domed sapphire I have had or seen on a watch. It's hard to describe but it's very smooth and lacks any sort of distortion/magnification - Looks cool.

Accuracy is supposed to be 0 to +10s a day but will keep an eye on. I've heard watches getting magnetised in shipping as they go through various scanning machines and things as they depart and arrive through countries. I have a demagnetiser anyway though if it does appear to be running fast.

Many photos warning... Kinda funny that my photos below are the only photos online of this model with the hand wind movement and bronze caseback together :p







I love the heat blued hands the way they shimmer in the light:


On the wrist (6.7")


More photos...







Size comparison vs the Laco 39m and Hamilton 36mm:


Lume comparison:






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Got a new mouse surface for my desk today, old map themed which I think called for a photo session with a suitable watch ;-)





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Great pictures and congrats on a very cool watch.

I have a feeling you've sold a few of these for Stowa

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Thanks!

A few have bought the 36 on a couple of forums and the Stowa Fans Facebook group now based on my pics lol. I tagged Stowa on Instagram but no engagement from them on social media which is a shame really. Is what it is I guess, I still like the watch even if they don't really engage with loyal customers on social media.
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It looks great, congrats on the purchase!
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I may be wrong but heard you can request a bronze caseback on the 40mm but it comes with ss by default!
Can anyone confirm this? Jorg? I've got all of the bronze Stowa watches except I sent the 40mm flieger back because the SS caseback mismatch drove me nuts on the handwinder. I think I'm in for another one if this is the case!

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Stowa told me in livechat although I think now even the 40mm comes with a bronze caseback., Simply send them a livechat message to confirm.
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I mentioned previously that the case gets a little lighter after it gets wet, here's a few recent phone pics to demonstrate. It only stays this way for a day before settling back to its default factory finish - Kinda cool and I really like that. The buckle on the strap however patinas regardless as it is not treated the same as the case as previously mentioned.





And after a day:
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So it's been a year now, how has the bronze fared? Well, largely looks the same still but the buckle is obviously not treated the same as the case because it has extended patination!







(caseback is an older pic but it looks the same as this now, I forgot to take a pic last night!)



And still can't get enough of those high polished hands...

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@mrk Stowa should pay you for marketing photos! Your pics keeps my lust for Stowa super high. :love:
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@mrk Stowa should pay you for marketing photos! Your pics keeps my lust for Stowa super high. :love:
Hah I wish that was a thing! Truth be told I've emailed Stowa about wanting to buy an 18mm bronze buckle for another strap to put on this Flieger but one time the first email got "lost" then found weeks later, the followup reply asking for further detail has yet to be answered and I've actually lost interest.

I like the watch for sure but just wish companies like this put more effort into engaging with customers who clearly appreciate the brand and products. If I get little in the way of a response to super simple emails like asking to buy a buckle, then I'm unlikely to buy another watch from them again or post any new photos of their watches if I have one.

Shame really!
@mrk I wonder your experience has anything to do with the recent departure of Jorg from Stowa or if this is just a coincidence. Now with your less than stellar customer experience and their most recent price bump, I'm a lot less inclined to purchase their watches.
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I was just thinking about that last night in fact and you are probably right, the coincidence is certainly there and perhaps my emails got lost in the mix of things going on over there. I'm all for trying a final time of course so once this has seemingly settled I will enquire once more and if I hear nothing back then that will affirm what I mentioned above I guess.

It would be a shame for sure, but I guess that's the way things go sometimes?
Dear mrk,

Thank you for your feedback.

Could you please help us identify your email address?

Please rest assured that even with the recent changes, we will do our best to provide the best customer service experience we can and which we are known for.

We do take this opportunity to apologize to you for not having replied to your previous email. We will investigate and have that fixed for you.

With best regards from the Black Forest.

Your STOWA team
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Dear mrk,

Thank you for your feedback.

Could you please help us identify your email address?

Please rest assured that even with the recent changes, we will do our best to provide the best customer service experience we can and which we are known for.

We do take this opportunity to apologize to you for not having replied to your previous email. We will investigate and have that fixed for you.

With best regards from the Black Forest.

Your STOWA team
Hi and thanks very much!

Good to hear about business as usual and I can confirm my email address is emailATrobbiekhan.co.uk - The last reply I sent was on the 9th February 2022, and this was a reply to Katrin Menold's confirmation that I could indeed buy a buckle and gave me a price. My email reply was asking for confirmation if that price was for the 18mm bronze buckle (y)
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Hi and thanks very much!

Good to hear about business as usual and I can confirm my email address is emailATrobbiekhan.co.uk - The last reply I sent was on the 9th February 2022, and this was a reply to Katrin Menold's confirmation that I could indeed buy a buckle and gave me a price. My email reply was asking for confirmation if that price was for the 18mm bronze buckle (y)
Excellent, thank you. You will receive an email reply from us by today.

With best regards from the Black Forest.

Your STOWA team
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Excellent, thank you. You will receive an email reply from us by today.

With best regards from the Black Forest.

Your STOWA team
Got the email thanks very much! I have replied to it and I noticed the same email address that I replied to previously but which cannot be found on your system, strange. I have also added [email protected] just incase the customer service one goes to spam or something - Maybe this might be what happened last time?
The new strap is here from Watchgecko!



The bronze 18mm buckle from Stowa is currently on the way, too, so cannot wait to install that on this and complete the look. I think this strap in charcoal colour and the texture etc suits the bronze perfectly vs the plain black rubber Hirsch.
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Quick update, the 18mm buckle arrived today and have to say it is fantastic as expected, but I was also expecting it to be untreated with the same finishing that locks in the bronze from further patina like the case does. Immediately it is obvious the new buckle is indeed treated and has the same finish as my watch case!

My original 16mm buckle does not and patinas to the point I reset it as mentioned earlier as I didn't really like the pattern it was forming.

I will email @STOWA1927 and ask about this as I would prefer the 16mm buckle to be finished the same way too, so if new 16mm buckles are indeed finished the same, then it would be nice to get mine swapped out as no idea why mine originally came with an unfinished buckle and it was one of the things I put down as a negative in my original posts here.

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16mm original on left, 18mm new on right:


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