Good afternoon fellow watch nerds, after a lot of emails i've managed to get in touch with Casio's product manager for the EU, he has told me that if we are interested we can put together a list with things we don't like about each of the watches firmware, for example, that when a notification pops up you have to go through 7 steps to read the notification(GBX) or that the GBD-100 and GBX-100 don't have the hourly beep. They've told me that if they are updates they can do they will try to implement them in the following firmware updates. So, if you are a user of any of the above mentioned watches (GBX-100, GBD-100 or GBD-H1000) and there is something you would like to add or to change from the firmware of the watches just answer this thread, say what watch you own and propose the change, if there are any bugs or problems with the firmware you can also put them below. Once i have answers from this forum and two Spanish forums ill put together a list for each model and email it to Casio's product manager in the EU, he will then forward it to someone in Casio Japan that can decide on making those changes and if everything goes right we may get some of the things we propose on the next updates. In my opinion it's us, as users, who best can decide on what changes to make on the firmware. From what i know the GBD-H1000 is more open to changes as its a solar watch with rechargeable battery so while the GBX-100 and GBD-100 are more limited on terms of updates due to them being just battery powered, so if you have any ideas on the GBD-H1000 you can go a bit more crazy on the proposals as there are probably more options to put on that model than on the other 2. If you are a member of any other watch forum and would like to post this there don't hesitate to do so and just post the ideas you get in that forum here or send them to me via PM(unfortunately my language knowledge is limited to English and Spanish so please send everything in one of those two languages), the objective is to fix all those little problems the watch firmware have so they are easier and more comfortable to use and also to add things such as the hourly beep that some of us like so much. To end this looong message i would like to say thanks in advance to the admins for making this such a great forum, im not very active here so i don't know exactly how everything works but i've read the forum rules and i don't think im breaking any rules, if i am don't hesitate to delete the message or contact me to make changes on the message.
ngb3232
Great idea. Casio must have recognized that something is off.
I start with: the stopwatch has no 1/100 second resolution and can only measure 1 second intervals.
This is what bugs me and why I would never buy a digital watch without that feature. There seems to be a few more issues as suggested by some forum users and some Amazon reviews.
I start with: the stopwatch has no 1/100 second resolution and can only measure 1 second intervals.
This is what bugs me and why I would never buy a digital watch without that feature. There seems to be a few more issues as suggested by some forum users and some Amazon reviews.
Thanks @ngb3232 for collecting these issues.
May I ask which spanish forum do you refer to? I am curious, as I am Spanish too
Maybe relojes-especiales?
Things that I would mention for the GBX-100 line:
That's it for now
May I ask which spanish forum do you refer to? I am curious, as I am Spanish too
Maybe relojes-especiales?
Things that I would mention for the GBX-100 line:
- Hourly beep. The watch supports beeps so, i cannot imagine how this would not be possible
- Notifications: quick access to notification when arrives the watch
- CDT (Count Down Timer) I was surprised to not see a proper CDT. Yes we have Timers however, when you use that mode as it is supposed to be used, by entering Programmable timers for interval training, there is no way to easily create a timer to count.... let's say... the cooking time of an egg. I would have to modify all my program in order to do that
- Long press buttons to "Increase" or "Decrease" digits. When configuring things like alarms, or timers, or other things directly from the watch, it doesn't allow long press to increase/decrease digits. If you try to do that, it will kick you back to the home screen or exit the configuration mode. Really annoying as it forces you to press dozens of times and, these buttons are not very responsive
- Change to add a "name" to User-1, User-2 and User-3 settings
- Please fix the tide data. It is plain wrong. Something is broken when transferring from the app to the watch that distorts all the tide data.
- Disconnect sun data from tide data, i.e, possibility of having a city for each feature. I don't leave close to the beach, i like to have sun data from my location but i also like to see at the same time how the tide conditions are in the favorite spot where i go every year. If this is not possible, at least provide a way to cycle through the different User presets quickly, without the need to go into settings to change location.
- Please fix the annoyingly long time it takes to exit the Training mode. If i press the B-button by mistake, I immediately get stressed knowing how long it will take for the watch to go back to Time mode
- Fix responsiveness of the buttons. If pressed quickly, the watch doesn't react to the presses. There is a very long delay between each actuation
- App (Android): please allow to decide which notifications I want from my phone and which ones not. Right now is all or nothing. Look at Garmin how it handles it, it has a specific sub-menu for App Notifications where you decide which ones go through the watch and which ones not
- Customize the timekeeping mode, like the PRT-B50
- Customize Long-press-button-B. I don't run so this feature is useless for me. I'd love to have, for example, quick Stopwatch start, like the Rangeman, or quick CDT start, like the GD-350.
That's it for now
Make the maximum CDT duration 24 hours rather than 1 hour (without using the repeats feature). If necessary to accomplish this, for durations over 1 hour, the input value can be hours and minutes rather than minutes and seconds.
Quite a few people have complained about inaccurate or inconsistent results with the step counter, at least in the GBX-100.
This is a great idea. I have a GDB-H1000 which I'm extremely fond of despite its quirks.
I've been in regular comms with the G-Shock UK product support team via WhatsApp and found them responsive although they do simply pass all the info onto Tokyo.
My main comms have revolved around bug fixes.
There is an odd one where my date of birth keeps changing in the app. I thought I must have set it wrong when setting up the account but it drifts by about a day a week. I've sent them screen shots but is a regular issue still.
Twice now its stopped syncing with Strava, The fix is pretty simple as you have to log out of everything on the app and on the website and log back in. Sadly any data that hadn't been transferred is then lost.
In terms of suggestions for improvements I'd like to see:
Different activity types. I only run and hike. If I use the watch to track hikes it throws out the stats and the VO2 max. I assume others would at least like cycling in addition to these.
Alarms that can be set per day. ie 6:30am on Monday, Weds and Fri, 5:45 on a Tuesday and Thurs etc.
One button access to notifications from home screen
Notifications to feature different fields on the main page. Ie on the Garmin Instinct you would see a zoom alert with Zoom and the senders name. On this watch it just says Zoom Zoom. Linkedin is just Linkedin, LinkedIn. Strangely the Asana app shows Asana and the first line of the task.
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Option to switch off (Or reorder) some of the mode screens. I know others find them useful however I never use CDT or stopwatches. They are just more button presses for me to scroll through to notifications.
On the web app:
Option to delete entries. I have a run from June that keeps duplicating itself for some reason. I assume it's some sort of a sync issue. This means it is throwing all the stats out.
I'm sure I have more. [emoji3]
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I've been in regular comms with the G-Shock UK product support team via WhatsApp and found them responsive although they do simply pass all the info onto Tokyo.
My main comms have revolved around bug fixes.
There is an odd one where my date of birth keeps changing in the app. I thought I must have set it wrong when setting up the account but it drifts by about a day a week. I've sent them screen shots but is a regular issue still.
Twice now its stopped syncing with Strava, The fix is pretty simple as you have to log out of everything on the app and on the website and log back in. Sadly any data that hadn't been transferred is then lost.
In terms of suggestions for improvements I'd like to see:
Different activity types. I only run and hike. If I use the watch to track hikes it throws out the stats and the VO2 max. I assume others would at least like cycling in addition to these.
Alarms that can be set per day. ie 6:30am on Monday, Weds and Fri, 5:45 on a Tuesday and Thurs etc.
One button access to notifications from home screen
Notifications to feature different fields on the main page. Ie on the Garmin Instinct you would see a zoom alert with Zoom and the senders name. On this watch it just says Zoom Zoom. Linkedin is just Linkedin, LinkedIn. Strangely the Asana app shows Asana and the first line of the task.
Option to switch off (Or reorder) some of the mode screens. I know others find them useful however I never use CDT or stopwatches. They are just more button presses for me to scroll through to notifications.
On the web app:
Option to delete entries. I have a run from June that keeps duplicating itself for some reason. I assume it's some sort of a sync issue. This means it is throwing all the stats out.
I'm sure I have more. [emoji3]
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Another one that comes to my mind.
- Possibility to disable within the App the "Settings Complete" pop-up message when changing parameters. This dialog is not needed and creates a forced delay when navigating through the watch. I am aware I can quickly close it by pressing a button but, if this dialog doesn't add anything else but a confirmation of my actions, I'd rather skip it and make the UI experience much more fluent
long opinion incoming. short experience with the gbd-100:
good thread and idea behind it, its much needed the companies go this step, its the future of things, for the best of us all.
yet, under the circumstances, it leaves to me the taste of "beta testers that give input without being paid".
to me, it should be the duty of a company to find out themselves, by reading through forums, etc, what the customers like and dislike about their products, THEN changing the product, NOT us users to beg for being heard and send feedback with our time and effort. i mean we exchange our cash for a product, their part of the deal is to provide us the best possible product they can offer.
i myself wrote to casio germany to offer feedback to the watch (gbd-100), i was ignored. in this case its a bit pity, that only the masses have the power to change an obviously flawed system.
so, not to make casio look bad, their products are still excellent. its just a very conservative company that lacks the needs of the time so often.
to the things id like to change about the gbd-100, as i wrote on the other thread. i know some things cant be changed, still:
granted i didnt have the watch terrible firm on my wrist, i wore it a bit tighter than usual for this test.
also i not only jogged, had some walking "breaks" in between.
still: this shows, a pedometer of todays design cant be an exact thing like a gps, of course not. too many factors (speed difference, uphill, downhill, walking breaks, etc).
- the watch itself reacts (very) slow and lagging in every aspect. forget to push and get an instant reaction. no fast "3 times to get to the stopwatch".
a bit like playing a high-end pc-game on daddy´s 10 year old notebook. a downside of the 2020 mip-displays? will updates better this? cant remember the garmin instinct being so slow.
the longest wait is, if using "RUN", then leaving that mode. it takes 11secs (!) until done. no matter if u save, erase or just wanna exit.
good thread and idea behind it, its much needed the companies go this step, its the future of things, for the best of us all.
yet, under the circumstances, it leaves to me the taste of "beta testers that give input without being paid".
to me, it should be the duty of a company to find out themselves, by reading through forums, etc, what the customers like and dislike about their products, THEN changing the product, NOT us users to beg for being heard and send feedback with our time and effort. i mean we exchange our cash for a product, their part of the deal is to provide us the best possible product they can offer.
i myself wrote to casio germany to offer feedback to the watch (gbd-100), i was ignored. in this case its a bit pity, that only the masses have the power to change an obviously flawed system.
so, not to make casio look bad, their products are still excellent. its just a very conservative company that lacks the needs of the time so often.
to the things id like to change about the gbd-100, as i wrote on the other thread. i know some things cant be changed, still:
- resistant app connection problems under android.
- pedometer (what a word giggle) seems to work fine when walking. 600m distance= counted 570m +- ;
granted i didnt have the watch terrible firm on my wrist, i wore it a bit tighter than usual for this test.
also i not only jogged, had some walking "breaks" in between.
still: this shows, a pedometer of todays design cant be an exact thing like a gps, of course not. too many factors (speed difference, uphill, downhill, walking breaks, etc).
- the watch itself reacts (very) slow and lagging in every aspect. forget to push and get an instant reaction. no fast "3 times to get to the stopwatch".
a bit like playing a high-end pc-game on daddy´s 10 year old notebook. a downside of the 2020 mip-displays? will updates better this? cant remember the garmin instinct being so slow.
the longest wait is, if using "RUN", then leaving that mode. it takes 11secs (!) until done. no matter if u save, erase or just wanna exit.
- the digits on the display are hilarious tiny. i counted 0,8mm height for the smallest line. u need really good eyes for this watch or knowing where everything is and what it means. but well, even they are so tiny, for their size, they are very sharp and well lit.
- the watch itself reacts AFTER u let go of the pusher. means: u press the pusher, letting it go, the watch reacts. this gives a more slow feeling.
- the stopwatch shows no tenth or hundreds seconds. garmin instinct does this for the first seconds, so mip-display cant be blamed. i think for a sportswatch this must be included, at least when timing is done. update?
- no press-and-hold of pushers to let the numbers run. nope. u want 15:37h? always press manually 15 times, run button, then 37 times (or the other way). here comes the smartphone app in handy!
- each simple "confirm" takes a second or more.
- display, as with almost every G, unnecessary overloaded.
- vibe alert is quite weak, id say at most average. u most likely wont feel it if wearing over a sleeve or if being a more unsensible person. alarm and vibe endure in all 10secs, alternating. if u put the gbd-100 on the table, it barely moves itself by the vibe. garmin instinct dances u a rythmn and weights almost same.
- pairing with the smartphone (here used: high-end smartphone from 2019 with android) is very slow and quite complicated. yes i know, android sucks. but its also the app and watch. app itself reacts slow to changes before sending it to the watch, 2-3secs.
- the price of the watch is steep. should be 100-110euros, not 150euros. the watch seems just too unrefined with the burrs and materials used. it sure will last cause its a casio and G, still...
- no options to choose what modes to display, means no much re-arranging of modes.
- again: illumination goes off when a button is pressed. casio, please, update here. suunto did this in 2000. this is 20 years ago!
- option to change the light intensity is wished.
- alternative watchfaces
Do someone even will want these watches after reading things in this thread?
With these flops i am really surprised how they passed it especially if at least someone of design team touched at least some product from competition.
Glaring holes are too glaring. We discussed stopwatch, but timers? No quick set of alarm/setting with long press on non touch/bezel action watch?
I mean yes it's BT so you can do most of the things from phone but when why you even have watch in the first place?
With these flops i am really surprised how they passed it especially if at least someone of design team touched at least some product from competition.
Glaring holes are too glaring. We discussed stopwatch, but timers? No quick set of alarm/setting with long press on non touch/bezel action watch?
I mean yes it's BT so you can do most of the things from phone but when why you even have watch in the first place?
MIPS are as fast as any other LCD for watch purposes. Type of display not a problem.
Making it slow for battery saving is a problem.
Making it slow for battery saving is a problem.
GBD H1000
Love it
Everything everybody else said: plus
Sunrise /sunset time or preferably “Next Sun Event” can be added to world time so they won’t even have to change that display- the font sizing and placement is great for that info already- they could add it as a city and just let the watch calculate base one home time.
allow Programmable timer to activity tracking- this would allow us to see the timer in an activity and track the workout using HR and accelerometer for calories. Do not include in VO2 Max but do include in recovery time.
adding more workouts would be great but at the least: Run, Cycle and Walk would suffice as long as they adjust the VO2 Max calculations based on distance- this would allow us to track any outdoor activity without screwing up the running VO2 Max.
Increase vibration intensity
Full screen Notification pop up- use run button to mark as read or delete.
Love it
Everything everybody else said: plus
Sunrise /sunset time or preferably “Next Sun Event” can be added to world time so they won’t even have to change that display- the font sizing and placement is great for that info already- they could add it as a city and just let the watch calculate base one home time.
allow Programmable timer to activity tracking- this would allow us to see the timer in an activity and track the workout using HR and accelerometer for calories. Do not include in VO2 Max but do include in recovery time.
adding more workouts would be great but at the least: Run, Cycle and Walk would suffice as long as they adjust the VO2 Max calculations based on distance- this would allow us to track any outdoor activity without screwing up the running VO2 Max.
Increase vibration intensity
Full screen Notification pop up- use run button to mark as read or delete.
Got a 13 point list for the GBX-100 and GBD-100 and a 5 point list for the GBD-H1000, by far the most requested things are easier access to notifications and hourly chime. Vibration intensity is something a lot of you have asked for so it is also on the list. Ive added pretty much everything you guys have asked for. I'll wait till tomorrow to see if i get more replies and then i'll send it off. I really hope we get some of the suggestions onto the watches. Im sure some of them are possible, there may be some that are impossible to implement for technical reasons but the hourly chime or higher vibration are probably possible.
I'm not sure if a firmware update is capable of all these suggestions, but since we are at it, how about the ability to toggle between positive and negative? Not sure if it is possible with an update, but I'd love that. The 1 KM notification gave me a taste and it looks great. Pics for comparison
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Garmin just announced Instinct Solar for 400$.
Can live on solar forever if you turn power saving.
It puts Casio offering into less favorable place on the market just when it entered it.
So Casio should be pretty darn fast and good in fixing.
Can live on solar forever if you turn power saving.
It puts Casio offering into less favorable place on the market just when it entered it.
So Casio should be pretty darn fast and good in fixing.
Garmin Instinct solar is way better than Casio in any possible regard apart from no been G-Shock with 200m and more advanced shock resistance.
But i will be last person to claim you need 200m over 100m WR and excessive shock resistance should rule over frankly way better in any other direction functionality, customization and list goes on including things Casio can't do at all. Not to mention Garmin is smaller.
But i will be last person to claim you need 200m over 100m WR and excessive shock resistance should rule over frankly way better in any other direction functionality, customization and list goes on including things Casio can't do at all. Not to mention Garmin is smaller.
The Instinct Solar is pretty awesome. It's probably the single best value for money smartwatch around right now.
I don't think we're taking anything away from CASIO by saying that - and in fact, I personally think anyone thinking of buying a smartwatch should look at the Instinct Solar first before considering anything else - Apple Watches, Garmin Fenixes, Suuntos, etc.
The other smartwatches have their own charms, but I feel like every smartwatch consumer should go into their decision knowing that the Garmin Instinct Solar exists and then make a decision from there.
I don't think we're taking anything away from CASIO by saying that - and in fact, I personally think anyone thinking of buying a smartwatch should look at the Instinct Solar first before considering anything else - Apple Watches, Garmin Fenixes, Suuntos, etc.
The other smartwatches have their own charms, but I feel like every smartwatch consumer should go into their decision knowing that the Garmin Instinct Solar exists and then make a decision from there.
I have a Garmin Fenix 6x Pro Sapphire, a Garmin Instinct (bought before the Fenix 6x Pro), a Casio GBX-100 (bought after the Garmin watches) and many other Casio watches that are out of the scope of this thread.
I have owned 3 generations of Garmin Fenix watches plus 6/7 different wristbands. I may still have a Vivosmart somewhere in the house.
I have used the Instinct 24x7 until I got "tired" of it and went back to wearing my Casio watches. I missed wearing something different, something that look better to my eyes, something more reliable and without the need to charge it. I was still using the Instinct until I bought the Fenix 6x Pro. It is a fantastic watch and i will not sell it.
I have used the 6x Pro 24x7 for months... until i got tired... for the same reasons.
There is something in Casio that always makes me come back to them. I miss the looks, the simplicity, the reliability, the "forget about maintenance and just enjoy it".
I keep using the 6x Pro daily when biking or doing some sports. It is just not on my wrist all day (I even use it on the bike with a chest strap). Once you get to know your body, you don't need to track 24x7 pulse, sleeping patterns, and those things anymore.
And now that I got the GBX teal, I love it.
I have to be honest that I have gotten more compliments from this watch than any others combined (including from my Kobe square, MTG-B1000 or GWG-1000).
I see myself wearing this GBX watch the whole summer.
The Instinct 2 is an amazing watch and will probably be a great success. Well deserved.
But I'll stick with the GBX.
I think discussing which watch is better is a very difficult topic, as each one of us have different interests, life styles, feature priorities, purchase capabilities, watch applications, etc, etc
Maybe we should leave that topic out of this thread?
I have owned 3 generations of Garmin Fenix watches plus 6/7 different wristbands. I may still have a Vivosmart somewhere in the house.
I have used the Instinct 24x7 until I got "tired" of it and went back to wearing my Casio watches. I missed wearing something different, something that look better to my eyes, something more reliable and without the need to charge it. I was still using the Instinct until I bought the Fenix 6x Pro. It is a fantastic watch and i will not sell it.
I have used the 6x Pro 24x7 for months... until i got tired... for the same reasons.
There is something in Casio that always makes me come back to them. I miss the looks, the simplicity, the reliability, the "forget about maintenance and just enjoy it".
I keep using the 6x Pro daily when biking or doing some sports. It is just not on my wrist all day (I even use it on the bike with a chest strap). Once you get to know your body, you don't need to track 24x7 pulse, sleeping patterns, and those things anymore.
And now that I got the GBX teal, I love it.
I have to be honest that I have gotten more compliments from this watch than any others combined (including from my Kobe square, MTG-B1000 or GWG-1000).
I see myself wearing this GBX watch the whole summer.
The Instinct 2 is an amazing watch and will probably be a great success. Well deserved.
But I'll stick with the GBX.
I think discussing which watch is better is a very difficult topic, as each one of us have different interests, life styles, feature priorities, purchase capabilities, watch applications, etc, etc
Maybe we should leave that topic out of this thread?
Bringing Garmin here made sense in light of direct competition. Since they are direct competition. Specifically because 100/1000s are more than just watch.
Getting steel square vs Garmin is useless. One is a watch and other is a wearable.
Things do not exist in vacuum.
There is always someone in your business. In case of GBD it's actually Casio venturing into someone's business.
If you evaluate painting you evaluate it alone but you do it with all other painting you saw before in mind. You do it standing on long history of things you know.
If you evaluate how's person playing violin again it's not like there is only one person there are plenty of others in evaluation. Not to mention talking about smart watches and fitness watches from standpoint of watches is totally wrong on so many levels.
I am not criticizing someones choices or preferences rather reflecting on my path across what is good on the wrist when you exercise.
Getting steel square vs Garmin is useless. One is a watch and other is a wearable.
Things do not exist in vacuum.
There is always someone in your business. In case of GBD it's actually Casio venturing into someone's business.
If you evaluate painting you evaluate it alone but you do it with all other painting you saw before in mind. You do it standing on long history of things you know.
If you evaluate how's person playing violin again it's not like there is only one person there are plenty of others in evaluation. Not to mention talking about smart watches and fitness watches from standpoint of watches is totally wrong on so many levels.
I am not criticizing someones choices or preferences rather reflecting on my path across what is good on the wrist when you exercise.
Casio should stay Casio but they need to learn how others doing it. I am pretty sure they did it in the past and like Picasso said :
"Good artists borrow, great artists steal." Whether or not Picasso was truly the first person to voice this idea is in some dispute.
That kinda industry standard.
"Good artists borrow, great artists steal." Whether or not Picasso was truly the first person to voice this idea is in some dispute.
That kinda industry standard.
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