I never said they were top of the line and nor did I say they were right on par with top of the line Swiss movement as not all Swiss movement is top of the line. As with any maker there are different grades of quality and I was putting it with average grade Swiss movement. I also was correct in stating that they use Japanese Quartz movement and btw so does Citizen brand watches as most if not all of the Eco-Drive watches use Japanese Quartz movement. However, as for the Citizen Signature series well that's a different story. Citizen is known for its good accuracy and uses Japanese movement and Fossil also uses Japanese movement so which is better? Probably the Citizen but I have no real reference to go on. How much better?, probably not much. Heck they could actually be sporting the same quality movement as for example I worked in a factory where I was making alcohol we had two brands of vodka that was being produced off the same line and one was generic called "Papa Vodka" and the other was "Smirnoff Vodka" do you know which was better? Well actually they are both the same and the only different was the label, bottle, and price.