[Armchair]

I suspect this has been posted before but here goes anyway:

Frederique Constant launches ingenious watch accuracy measuring clip | Frederique Constant

99 euros...strikes me as a pretty good deal.

 

[Calibrel]

That does seem like a great deal.

I'm curious to eventually hear from others about how it compares to the entry level desktop timegraphers.

 

[Bradjhomes]

I'd like to hear real world review, but looks interesting.

 

[El-Duderino]

And here I was looking at getting a timegrapher for Christmas. This does look intriguing if it works as advertised.


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[X2-Elijah]

Would be nice to get a better / clearer indication of Android support. They list a small sampling of Samsung and LG phones, without clarifying whether that's a true restriction, or whether those are just samples of a larger set FC was too lazy to note down / check.

 

[Chris Stark]

This product is getting a lot of buzz here. Please someone buy it and make a full report.

Has anyone placed an order for one?

 

[Calibrel]

Would be nice to get a better / clearer indication of Android support. They list a small sampling of Samsung and LG phones, without clarifying whether that's a true restriction, or whether those are just samples of a larger set FC was too lazy to note down / check.

I already downloaded the app from the Play store (I use Motorola). No indication that it supports Samsung and LG only.

It also seems that this is just a FC branded model, the company that actually makes it is Swiss-Connect. Wonder what the non-FC branded version will cost or if it will be cheaper. Not for sale yet.

swiss-connect.ch/analytics

 

[gward4]

I am intrigued by this. I would definitely give it a shot if we get a little more feedback about it.

 

[Armchair]

And here I was looking at getting a timegrapher for Christmas. This does look intriguing if it works as advertised.

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I'm tempted to ask Mrs Armchair for one for Christmas.

 

[X2-Elijah]

I already downloaded the app from the Play store (I use Motorola). No indication that it supports Samsung and LG only.

Thanks, good to know.

It also seems that this is just a FC branded model, the company that actually makes it is Swiss-Connect. Wonder what the non-FC branded version will cost or if it will be cheaper. Not for sale yet.

swiss-connect.ch/analytics

Yeah, maybe. MMT/swissconnect is the company behind the swiss smartwatch platform too (all the recent mondaine, tagH, fc smartwatches basically encapsulate mmt) - so maybe we'll only get branded versions and not the "unbranded" stuff. Then again, they do have a "coming soon / buy via paypal" page. Might be worth getting, who knows. Slighty lower price would be nice. Then again, not bad at all for a christmas toy.

 

[contrate_wheel]

I suspect this has been posted before but here goes anyway:

Thank you, Armchair, for posting this, I don't think it was posted before.

99 euros...strikes me as a pretty good deal.

It doesn't look such a good deal to me. That's the price of a real entry-level timegrapher, with beat error and amplitude readings, probably a more accurate rate reading (see note), and a microphone clamp that keeps the watch in a fixed position.

To use a clip microphone, by the way, is a good idea, but it is not a new idea, let alone revolutionary. I learned this trick when a guy called Klaus posted this Open source timing software #5 in a thread started by me in the watchmaking forum. (By the way, tg comes with beat error, and amplitude, and a calibration function, and full source code access, and it's free.) So might Klaus be the inventor of the Frederique Constant ingenious watch accuracy measuring clip? One should see the date of the patent application, if any...

Calibrel's question about an unbranded version made me think: is it conceivable that the unbranded version of this gadget might be just the 2euro guitar pickup clip that Klaus bought?

A final note: a smartphone can't time audio with 1ppm accuracy without an external time reference. No matter which app one might use, it can't and it won't. Here is some actual research An Analysis of Time Drift in Hand-Held Recording Devices (I have no connection with the authors).

 

[Iandk]

Thanks for that article, contrate, hadn't run across that particular one yet. Read some other ones comparing professional audio recording hardware, but none looking at consumer mobile devices so far; an error of 10-40ppm seemed to be somewhat usual, going from memory. A little surprised to see some smaller numbers in that article, considering they're not quite as concerned about audio fidelity and timing as the hardware where that *does* matter.

Curiosity has me wondering if all that's there is just a microphone on a clip, or is there more than that? If just a microphone, the price seems somewhat excessive even considering that you are paying for the software that is used with it....

(And while there are some expensive microphones out there, typically they'll get a lot more mileage and use recording music performances...)