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Thanks for your post. It´s easy to use for run? I know that you dont´t run, but which are the parameters that the Fenix give to runners?
Yes, it is easy to use for running, as easy as the 610. Actually, speed outdoor inline skating is very similar to running excepted that you ride much faster and display speed like for cycling instead of pace.

You have the same list of information you can choose from (both devices have a huge list of information yiou can choose from, I found on the Fenix all those I was using on the 610 but I didn't check if they are all present) and you can define yourself how many and waht data pages you want just like on the 610. As said, some advanced features like virtual race, virtual partner and training effect do not exist while you can have the informations provided by the additional sensors (altimeter, barometer, compass) but if you don't want them, you can suppress these pages.

What is also new is that instead of having two pre-defined type of activities (running and cycling), there are many activities pre-defined on the Fenix and you can create yourself new type of activities. For each activity, you cab define yourself all the settings (display pages, used sensors...).

Besides that, since there is no touch, you must use the buttons to scroll between the pages (up and down, I was used to use the "tap" feature to move to the next page, but this works only in one direction) and there are only 3 fields maximum on the screen instead of 4 on the 610.

Another thing I didn't mention, the backligthing of the Fenix is much stronger than the one of the 610 (you can of course program it to reduce its level if you find it too high what will most probably save battery, but on the 610 the maximum is weak).

Yet another difference : the data transfer to the laptop isn't done wireless, it is done by USB while on the 610, the USB is only used for charging (there are 4 contacts for the craddle on the Fenix like on the 305 instead of the 2 = ground and power supply on the 610) and the device is delivered with an ANT+ USB dongle for data transfer. I don't think that it is a drawback, because even if it wireless on the 610, you neverthelessl need to plug a USB device = ANT+ USB dongle to your laptop.

Now wireless data transfer may come with a new SW release: it would be logical that Garmin will use the BT link for data transfer when the BT low energy specifications will be fully finalized.
 

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This "Elevation" uses the Barometer (air pressure) to sense differences in elevation and is much more responsive than the other option "GPS Elevation" which uses GPS and is much less responsive. The Data Page stays visible until you manually change it to something else.

Sorry, no elevators near me, but holding the watch over my head and lowering it to floor level indicates a 7-8 foot drop. The problem is it takes a couple of seconds to register the change. This is very responsive for earthbound activities.

The fenix is not a professional instrument suitable for skydiving and I cannot recommend you use it for that.

However, if you just want to have the fenix along for the ride - for fun - I'm sure the resultant data would be great fun to look at later. ;-)

HTH
You are absolutely right, all professional skydiving altimeters including automatic activation devices (AAD's) rely on air pressure to calculate elevation.
I use an electronic altimeter which stays in my helmet, has audible alarms for different elevations, logs pretty much everything and downloads it to a specialised software.
What I am looking to replace is a second mechanical altimeter that I wear on my wrist. First, it needs to be easily readable and the picture you provided proves it is.
But the couple of seconds you mentioned could mean 500 ft or more in freefall, so before I jump with the fenix I will investigate that a little more. The interval at which the screen is refreshing is also important, should be no more than a second. I'll do some more homework before buying.

Thanks and enjoy your fenix!
 

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When i delete tracks in Fenix (connected with usb) using basecamp, the tracks do not show in left field and no tracks to be found in the fenix.
But if I connect again and download tracks to basecamp the same tracks I deleted shows up, am I doing something wrong?
 

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You are absolutely right, all professional skydiving altimeters including automatic activation devices (AAD's) rely on air pressure to calculate elevation.
I use an electronic altimeter which stays in my helmet, has audible alarms for different elevations, logs pretty much everything and downloads it to a specialised software.
What I am looking to replace is a second mechanical altimeter that I wear on my wrist. First, it needs to be easily readable and the picture you provided proves it is.
But the couple of seconds you mentioned could mean 500 ft or more in freefall, so before I jump with the fenix I will investigate that a little more. The interval at which the screen is refreshing is also important, should be no more than a second. I'll do some more homework before buying.

Thanks and enjoy your fenix!
About skydiving, does it mean it is less precise than a foretrex 401 that has skydiving functiion (harp, halo,...) ?
This functiion is very useful for militaries. I hope it Will be included in an update.
 

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Software update 2.60 is online, this message is from the Garmin forum.
Please use WebUpdater to download the latest version.

and backup your GPX, Profiles and activity folder, u never know ;-)

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We have had many reports of ascent and descent being incorrect. We believe this and many other issues have been resolved. Let us know what you think.


Changes made from version 2.40 to 2.60:
Added review of detailed fitness data when using FIT format. See Tracks>FIT History after saving track data.
Added lap distance for each lap in FIT files.
Added ability to set the notification type for auto pause and auto lap during setup.
Fixed issue with ascent and decent fields.
Fixed issue where invalid heart rate and cadence were shown in FIT files when the sensor was not connected.
Fixed bike cadence reported in FIT files.
Fixed issue with moving time and stopped time.
Fixed elevation over distance plot.
Fixed track distance, moving average, moving time, stopped time, pace and average speed shown in UltraTrac.
Fixed reliability issue with the alarm clock.
Fixed issue where some data fields would update when tracking was paused while GPS was still on.
Fixed issue where FIT files were not written if you saved via the tracks menu and the output method was set to FIT or GPX/FIT.
Fixed issues with editing a proximity alert.
Fixed issue where average heart rate and average cadence values were never reset when clearing the track or resetting trip data.
Fixed issue where incorrect ascent and descent are reported in FIT files on Garmin Connect
 

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I have a couple of questions about the use the Fenix gives to the barometer:
I saw somewhere a data field DEPTH. Does that mean that the Fenix detecs when it is under water and converts the increasing pressure into depth information?
And about the way in which the altitude is measured, if there is a data field ALTITUDE and another GPS ALTITUDE, does that mean that you can have one or the other? I thought you could have only one, which was the barometric one corrected by the gps information
Thanks In advance for your thoughts on these issues
 

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Is it possible to record "tracks" indoor? The goal is to get HR data of an indoor session.
I can only save tracks when GPS is on and running. Even in demo mode, I can not save my tracks. Same with firmware 2.60.
Other Garmin products ask after a while if you are indoor. Not the Fenix.
Is that normal or not.
For info Garmin already replaced my first Fenix because of a battery problem (down in 5 minutes).
 

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I have a couple of questions about the use the Fenix gives to the barometer:
I saw somewhere a data field DEPTH. Does that mean that the Fenix detecs when it is under water and converts the increasing pressure into depth information?
And about the way in which the altitude is measured, if there is a data field ALTITUDE and another GPS ALTITUDE, does that mean that you can have one or the other? I thought you could have only one, which was the barometric one corrected by the gps information
Thanks In advance for your thoughts on these issues
The Depth field is for the Depth of a waypoint (fishing spot) It does not show u diving depth.
Altitude field is the same, for a waypoint altitude. GPS altitude is the field used for GPS hight what comes with your GPS signal.
 

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Thanks mariomobiel! That update fixed my only complaint. The review of the FIT file now gives elapsed time, calories, avg HR and split/lap times! Awesome update!

ETA: Here's a link to WebUpdater for those who don't already have it. Garmin: WebUpdater Software Update Collection
Your welcome. Thanks for adding the WebUpdater link, forgot that.

i am happy to, now I live at 11m witch is the correct hight, in stead of -121m ;-)
and in GC I'm no longer running besides my bike (GC showed SPM in stead of RPM)
 

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Thanks mariomobiel! That update fixed my only complaint. The review of the FIT file now gives elapsed time, calories, avg HR and split/lap times! Awesome update!

ETA: Here's a link to WebUpdater for those who don't already have it. Garmin: WebUpdater Software Update Collection
The FIT files are upgading. What about the GPX files? Already perfect? Old technology not up-to-date?
 

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Software update 2.60 is online, this message is from the Garmin forum.
Please use WebUpdater to download the latest version.

and backup your GPX, Profiles and activity folder, u never know ;-)

------------------------------------------------------Garmin Forum-----------------------------------------------------

We have had many reports of ascent and descent being incorrect. We believe this and many other issues have been resolved. Let us know what you think.

Changes made from version 2.40 to 2.60:
Added review of detailed fitness data when using FIT format. See Tracks>FIT History after saving track data.
Added lap distance for each lap in FIT files.
Added ability to set the notification type for auto pause and auto lap during setup.
Fixed issue with ascent and decent fields.
Fixed issue where invalid heart rate and cadence were shown in FIT files when the sensor was not connected.
Fixed bike cadence reported in FIT files.
Fixed issue with moving time and stopped time.
Fixed elevation over distance plot.
Fixed track distance, moving average, moving time, stopped time, pace and average speed shown in UltraTrac.
Fixed reliability issue with the alarm clock.
Fixed issue where some data fields would update when tracking was paused while GPS was still on.
Fixed issue where FIT files were not written if you saved via the tracks menu and the output method was set to FIT or GPX/FIT.
Fixed issues with editing a proximity alert.
Fixed issue where average heart rate and average cadence values were never reset when clearing the track or resetting trip data.
Fixed issue where incorrect ascent and descent are reported in FIT files on Garmin Connect
Thanks! This appears to address all of the issues I was having. I appreciate the heads up!
 

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Hi there, an amazing review! Thanks! I'm seriously considering buying one now.
A quick question. Since this does have bluetooth, I was wondering if you could potentially use it to connect the watch to your iphone as use the watch as a bluetooth gps sensor for your iphone/tablet.
I travel between a few countries ever so often, and I usually don't have the ability to get data to use the agps function on my phone. It would be wonderful if I could just use the watch to connect to my iphone and use predownloaded maps to navigate within different cities without needing to pay for new phone SIMS and 3g data especially considering some of the places I visit charge an eye per MB of data!:-d
Thanks again!!
 

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inserted per your request :)
Thanks Mesteviet. The elevation profiles for the fenix (without elevation correction) and for the Ambit seem to closely match (although I am viewing on an iPhone screen). What was the total ascent for the Ambit, was it close to the 492' for the fenix track history?

It looks like you are using a 10 second altimeter recording interval for the Ambit, whereas the interval for the fenix looks like it is less (1 sec?). Not sure if this would account for much of a difference in the total ascent between the watches.
 

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Thanks Mesteviet. The elevation profiles for the fenix (without elevation correction) and for the Ambit seem to closely match (although I am viewing on an iPhone screen). What was the total ascent for the Ambit, was it close to the 492' for the fenix track history?

It looks like you are using a 10 second altimeter recording interval for the Ambit, whereas the interval for the fenix looks like it is less (1 sec?). Not sure if this would account for much of a difference in the total ascent between the watches.
I don't recall the interval for each watch but I try to have it record as often as possible. The Ambit ascent was 468. I ran today but it was before the new software update. I'll go again tomorrow with the update installed and we'll see how it looks.
 

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Hello jimmijames73

I use my Fenix for caching and it works great.

Accuracy:
Perfect. Response of distance and direction is pretty good even if you move very slow and a few meters only. Compass or second marker shows you the direction, if you are stopped, according to compass direction. Accuracy is probably a little bit less than on my etrex 10 but it could be related to the cloudy skye i had.

Paperless caching:
I use the pocket query from geocaching for all the traditional caches around my home location. This are 500 caches, the GPX is abaout 2.5MB size. You can load it by copying it to the garmin mass storage (GPX Directory). After disconnect the watch will reboot an load it (takes about 3 Minutes the first time for the 500 caches). You will have all data available including hints and logs. Readability is very good, you have to scroll a lot by pressing down button. When you have long description sometimes it lags for a few seconds. This could be related to the weak cpu. You have to be patient because reading and changing from logs to description is laggy. You can log your found, it will be stored to the geocache_logs file in root directory.

Probably i could optimize the gpx file a little bit (size, complexity) by use of the GSAK tool for removing unused information, but it works without it.

I don't use the transfer function ore any other tools for geocaching because it works perfect. I update the file echch week, so i'm up to date.

Please feel free to contact me if you need more informations.

Regards,
Nboss

p.s. Got the tempe sensor today :)
 
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