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I am in the market for my first Rolex and I'm torn between the GMT II Black & Red and the Black Explorer II (my first love has always been the Daytona, but I don't have the $10k to pick one up right now). I also love the look of the Sea Dweller, but I am drawn to the GMT function of the GMT II and Explorer II. I feel as though the Explorer II will be more versatile so far as wardrobe is concerned and will probably be more appropriate with suits, but the GMT seems to jump off the wrist more without being overly flashy. I understand that they are near identical in functions, with the GMT II giving the owner an additional time zone with the rotating bezel. I was hoping to get some input on this matter.
 

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I wear a suit to work almost every day and always have either my red/black GMT Master II or Sub Date on. I too agree that the GMT (or Sub) look more "Rolex-y" but any of them work fine with a suit. When I get another one it will be either the white face Explorer or the Daytona. The bottom like is that since you are spending almost 5K on a watch you should get the one you like the best. Whatever you end up with you will love it!
 

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You can not pick the wrong one, both are excellent! :) For me it is the GMT II, the combination of sporty and classic. Consider the GMT II all black as well. Nice feature of the GMT II is that you can change the bezel for a makeover whenever you like :-!
 

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Thanks for the advice. I am 90% sure I'm going with the Black and Red GMT II. It is the one that makes my heart beat fast when I wear it!

One more question (and keep in mind that I am a Rolex novice). What is the fascination with the Submariner? It is a beautiful watch, but it doesn't seem to do much; i.e. no complications. Given that the GMT II has the three time zone potential and date I don't get why someone would choose a Submariner over it. I have heard that some prefer the less cluttered face since you don't have to deal with the 24hr hand, but is there more to it?

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Thanks for the advice. I am 90% sure I'm going with the Black and Red GMT II. It is the one that makes my heart beat fast when I wear it!

One more question (and keep in mind that I am a Rolex novice). What is the fascination with the Submariner? It is a beautiful watch, but it doesn't seem to do much; i.e. no complications. Given that the GMT II has the three time zone potential and date I don't get why someone would choose a Submariner over it. I have heard that some prefer the less cluttered face since you don't have to deal with the 24hr hand, but is there more to it?

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Hi,

The Submariner has a large cult-status :) Caused by its appearance in the earlier Bond movies probably. It is a great and superb watch, and recognized all over the world as being 'a Rolex'. Something that never happened with my Sea-Dweller for instance :)

Anyway, I preferred the SD over the Sub because the larger depth-rate and heavier look&feel. However, I found the Sub more comfortable on the wrist. I detected that later on.. the SD is a bit unstable on my wrist, but this may differ from wrist to wrist. My current favorite in my collection is the GMT-II. It has the same feel as the Submariner, except for the smaller crown. Love the GMT-II because, like you wrote, it has a nice complication.

Good luck buying yours and I am sure you will not regret it!

RJ
 

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Hi,

The popularity of the sub has in my opinion developed due tho the purity of its design. The watch has a very simple function which it performs beautifully, the watch is undoubtedly a 20th century design icon and arguably the most memorable watch of the century.

I dont really think the james bond thing is relavent anymore, this was after all 30+ years ago. There are certainly other excellent models in the Rolex range but the Sub will always be the classic design. Once youve owned one they seem to place some sort of spell on the owner and you cant help but fall in love with the design of the watch, everything negative that youve heard seems to drift away over the months of ownership.

Anyways, as past posts state there is no such thing as bad Rolex choice ( well except the tacky oil shiek diamond ones !! ). Im sure you will be delighted with the GMT II

Alan
 

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I was planning on "Icing Out" my GMT II with diamonds ;-) . Maybe I'll reconsider. Just kidding!

Thanks for the responses, they've been very informative.
 

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I love my Black Face Explorer II, but like everyone on here has said, go with what you feel is right, not what you think looks right.
 

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I've got a Pepsi II but for some reason, I like the Explorer II with the black face better. I like the smooth bazel and simple look. Between the GMT II, Explorer II, and Sub-date, I would go for sub or SD.

Don't ask me why I like the sub now or why I even bought the GMT II. I think the GMT II was screaming at me in the store at that moment. It sort of happened in spilt-second but my heart was some place else after the purchase. The GMT II has a great function for traveler. I find it very useful for international travel but then again, I alway carry more than one watch when I travel and there's alway the simple math in head.


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I am in the market for my first Rolex and I'm torn between the GMT II Black & Red and the Black Explorer II (my first love has always been the Daytona, but I don't have the $10k to pick one up right now). I also love the look of the Sea Dweller, but I am drawn to the GMT function of the GMT II and Explorer II. I feel as though the Explorer II will be more versatile so far as wardrobe is concerned and will probably be more appropriate with suits, but the GMT seems to jump off the wrist more without being overly flashy. I understand that they are near identical in functions, with the GMT II giving the owner an additional time zone with the rotating bezel. I was hoping to get some input on this matter.
 

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You might have made your choice by now. Anyhow, for academic interest, I think the black face Rolex Sub, with or without date is the one to go for. Somehow the bezel give it the right look. Worth sacrificing the time zones function. It is more water resistence. I regretted not picking up the Tudor Submariner way back in the 1970's when I had a budget that did not stretched to a Rolex. Do not hesitate whatever your choice, and avoid spending part of your money on anything lesser than your expectations.
 

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Hello,

IMHO you should go for the Black/Red GMT-Master... it's a great and versatile watch. Changing the beezel inserts (to Black or Blue/Red) is easy and if you really want to have a complete different watch you can switch from the Oyster to the Jubilee bracelet.

The SD is IMHO to hefty... have a look at the Sub no date (14060M) instead... IMHO the classic Rolex sporty.

Kind regards Philipp
 

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I won't advise the Explorer II because it seems like any other sports series watch from any other company.There is nothing really special about it.
 

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Hi,

The Submariner has a large cult-status :) Caused by its appearance in the earlier Bond movies probably. It is a great and superb watch, and recognized all over the world as being 'a Rolex'. Something that never happened with my Sea-Dweller for instance :)

Anyway, I preferred the SD over the Sub because the larger depth-rate and heavier look&feel. However, I found the Sub more comfortable on the wrist. I detected that later on.. the SD is a bit unstable on my wrist, but this may differ from wrist to wrist. My current favorite in my collection is the GMT-II. It has the same feel as the Submariner, except for the smaller crown. Love the GMT-II because, like you wrote, it has a nice complication.

Good luck buying yours and I am sure you will not regret it!

RJ
Don't forget guys, that the GMT was worn in the original Casino Royale:-!

Peter Sellers has arrived at MI6 headquarters (I'm not sure if he's playing bond or not).

He is with Q and his boss. The scene is where the boss pulls out a selection of modified watches and says to Q "Watch?"

Q grabs Sellers' wrist and says in a posh voice "Rolex.... oyster perpetual....with date function and time elapsed indicator."

The boss goes through his collection and pulls out the exact same watch as Sellers is wearing. Sellers puts it on. You see a closeup of the watch as the pepsi GMT. The watch face, to Sellers astonishment, turns into a small television receiver, where he can see Ursula Andress:-D

But it is as clear as crystal that it is a pepsi. The film is worth watching, if not just for that scene:-D

I have the ss sub date. I think Iwas influenced a lot by the early bond films as a kid and this is why I have always had sporty watches (and to fit my lifestyle of course). But the sub for me is the ultimate tool. I will never let it go!B-)

Would I buy another Rollie? In a second! The sports ranges of all the Rollies are superb. You can never go wrong on any of the models:-!

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I would voe for the GMT II in black and red, a very classy and distinctive combination. The no date sub is my second choice as the classic sub. Especially if you don't like the cyclops.

The sub is a classic, but it is thicker than a GMT making it slightly more awkward with long sleeved shirts.
 

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philipp said:
Hello,

IMHO you should go for the Black/Red GMT-Master... it's a great and versatile watch. Changing the beezel inserts (to Black or Blue/Red) is easy and if you really want to have a complete different watch you can switch from the Oyster to the Jubilee bracelet.

The SD is IMHO to hefty... have a look at the Sub no date (14060M) instead... IMHO the classic Rolex sporty.

Kind regards Philipp
You took the words right out of my mouth........:-X


 

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As everyone has stated, no matter which watch you pick you certainly can not go wrong. I wear the SS Sub/Date and to me it's simply a classic. Sometimes simplicity in design is the beauty of the design. And there are certain things that will never go "out of style". While there are lots of trends, white oxford shirts and blue blazers will always be in style, and will always be a classic, despite all the come and go fashion trends, and that's the same way I feel about the ss sub/date. It's simply a classic.
 
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