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Just curious if the switch to the red rotor not only accomplished the intended brand identity effect but also created a bit of complication for the replica manufacturers (or fake makers) to align. I've not personally ever seen a fake with a red rotor and I've not seen a fake of any of the valjoux-movement watches that was not blatantly obvious to the naked eye... I sort of get the impression that Oris perhaps does not have enough cache or critical mass in popularity to warrant a rampant replica industry but perhaps others here have much more awareness than I on the trends.

Thoughts? Have you seen a poorly faked (or not so poorly faked) red rotor weight Oris?

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The con-men will fake anything. Even fake Invicta and Timex watches. You can bet that there's fake Oris models floating around with red rotors. Just the way it is.
 

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Didn't used to be that way. But in this age of the internet, they've got far more sophisticated than they used to be. It's no longer just the $10 or $15 Rolex fakes from China town that begin falling apart as you pick them up off the table. These disgusting con-men sell "replicas" off the net. Watches from every brand. Cheap Chinese automatic movements, somewhat decent quality materials used in the construction, and asking prices starting at $100 or a bit more for certain fakes.

It's disgusting.
 

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Yes, I've seen fakes with red rotors and Asian Valjoux 7750 clone movements. I have yet to see a red rotor that copies the exact shape of the Oris rotor. They're pretty easy to spot.
 

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If they can fake the case and bracelet, I'm pretty sure they can paint the rotor red. That being said, the percent of fake vs real Oris watches is insignificant compared to brands like Omega and Rolex where you should be much more skeptical when buying from a non AD.
 

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down here in bangkok. i havent seen a oris replica. but there's lot of fake rolex, breitling, panerai and u-boat.
 

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You only have to stick
Replica Oris Williams TT3 GMT 01
into google image search and you will find a red rotored "oris" chrono without the writing abot 15/20 images down , so the answer is yes
 

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(To the Mods - These are strictly educational comments to help prevent members from being scammed. My apologies if I am out of line)

As I said in my earlier post, don't use a red rotor as a criterion for judging a replica, because virtually every model that has a red rotor has been faked. Pay attention to the details and shape of the rotor, instead. Every red rotor fake I've ever seen is nothing like the authentic rotor, as you can see here, because there isn't enough demand for fake Oris's to justify the cost of making a high quality copy. You can spot the fake red rotors a mile away, painted or not.

REAL VS. FAKE

Oris auth rotor_s.jpg Oris fake rotor_s2.JPG
 

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Pay attention to the details and shape of the rotor, instead. Every red rotor fake I've ever seen is nothing like the authentic rotor, as you can see here
You're comparing a non-chronograph (probably based on a 2824) with a chronograph (based on a 7750) though - the rotors *are different on those two.

Your example on the right might look a bit rubbish overall cos it still has its protective sheet on blurring the detail

The one that I suggested in the image search (earlier) is supposedly a chronograph with a non chronograph (red) rotor, either the chrono buttons are fake or it's a cheap non-ETA chrono inside cos the rotor doesn't match an ETA.

I don't want to directly link to it cos it has the replica shop name watermarked all over it and the mods would shout at me
 

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You're comparing a non-chronograph (probably based on a 2824) with a chronograph (based on a 7750) though - the rotors *are different on those two.

Your example on the right might look a bit rubbish overall cos it still has its protective sheet on blurring the detail

The one that I suggested in the image search (earlier) is supposedly a chronograph with a non chronograph (red) rotor, either the chrono buttons are fake or it's a cheap non-ETA chrono inside cos the rotor doesn't match an ETA.

I don't want to directly link to it cos it has the replica shop name watermarked all over it and the mods would shout at me
The one you're referring to is the only one I have ever seen that even attempts to duplicate the shape of the Oris rotor, but it's such a horrible movement and so obviously different than the real thing I doubt anyone would fall for it. That's a horrible replica; it doesn't even have Oris markings on the rotor let alone a movement that's remotely close to the real thing.


(To the Mods - These are strictly educational comments to help prevent members from being scammed. My apologies if I am out of line)
Here's an image of the real TT3 GMT Chrono alongside a high quality replica (I have photoshopped out the identifying watermark). As I stated previously, pretty much every fake red rotor Oris out there has a misshaped rotor that doesn't look anything like a real one, and that's even the case with this high quality 7750 based fake. The same applies to virtually every other fake Oris model I've ever seen.

REAL TT3 GMT VS. FAKE TT3 GMT

Oris TT3 GMT chrono authentic rotor_1s.JPG Oris TT3 GMT chrono fake rotor_2s.jpg
 

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The primary thing is to trust the seller to be sure you are getting an authentic Oris.

Sometimes the rotor isn't a definite giveaway. In the photo on the right above, that appears to be an actual 7750 rotor; however, Oris uses their own rotor on this particular model. Oris is one of the few makers that doesn't use the standard shape 7750 rotor. On a non-chronograph, you might see the notched rotor as in the left photo above as that looks to be a standard ETA 2824 non-chronograph rotor.

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Yes. The red rotor was introduced in 2002. So any Oris before then had a silver or gold rotor (gold were before the silver).

I had a moonphase complication in 2001 that had a silver rotor.

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Sometimes the rotor isn't a definite giveaway. In the photo on the right above, that appears to be an actual 7750 rotor; however, Oris uses their own rotor on this particular model. Oris is one of the few makers that doesn't use the standard shape 7750 rotor. On a non-chronograph, you might see the notched rotor as in the left photo above as that looks to be a standard ETA 2824 non-chronograph rotor.

Chris
Yes, as on this one which appears to have been confirmed as a fake:

https://www.watchuseek.com/f63/fake-oris-sold-ebay-antiquesghaith-932985.html

Be careful with your purchases.
 
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