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Happy new year 2014, G-Shock lovers. I'm starting the year with this matchup thread of the two high profiles of G-Shock lines. The latest aviator GW-A1100 and the new metal twisted MTG-S1000D. People including me may wonder how the MTG performs comparing to the already champ aviator. Both have the smart access. GWA1100 goes further with the compass. But MTG is beatutiful with all metal bracelet (with resin pads) and case. So let's start the fighting. I did the video to compare speed. I also did couple lume shots which I'll add later. Enjoy..

The YouTube video is at Casio G-Shock MTGS1000D and GWA1100 Speed Test - YouTube

The test list:
(Update: add the test results from my opinion)

1. Entering stopwatch mode: MTG >> GWA
2. Resetting stopwatch: MTG > GWA
3. Entering countdown timer mode (preset at 55 min.): GWA > MTG
4. Resetting countdown timer mode: MTG = GWA
5. Entering alarm mode: MTG >> GWA
6. Entering home time mode and world time mode (MTG has dual time): MTG > GWA
7. Switching home time and world time: GWA >> MTG
8. Stopwatch instant start. MTGS can start the timing right before all hands are in the position. GWA1100 has to wait until all hands go to the position. Though it has the fly-back feature: MTG >> GWA
9. Hand speed during alarm setting: MTG >> GWA

 

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Re: Heavyweight Matchup: MTG-S1000D vs. GW-A1100 Speed Test

Thanks for review. Lots of info :)

Both watches have their strengths.

Both are beautiful.....

Soon ...... I'll get mine soon. :-!
 

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Re: Heavyweight Matchup: MTG-S1000D vs. GW-A1100 Speed Test

Great effort.. Though i must say it's not an apple to apple comparison.. The stopwatch instant start for example, the GW-A1100 just doesn't do that, it's not for comparison, otherwise it's like comparing the speed of the compass on GW-A1100 with the MTG-S and you can wait forever and it will not happen.

Both are great G's and I must agree the mode switching on the GW-A1100 is a little slow, but also fun to watch at the same time..
 

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Re: Heavyweight Matchup: MTG-S1000D vs. GW-A1100 Speed Test

Great effort.. Though i must say it's not an apple to apple comparison.. The stopwatch instant start for example, the GW-A1100 just doesn't do that, it's not for comparison, otherwise it's like comparing the speed of the compass on GW-A1100 with the MTG-S and you can wait forever and it will not happen.
I think it is relevant. I'm showing that MTG can go into stopwatch faster, which is what a stopwatch is supposed to be. It is a big improvement for analog G (may be MRG, Oceanous, or Edifice can do it.) But I forgot to mention in the video that GWA1100 can do flyback. Which is almost instant stopwatch. But yet GWA still has to wait for the mode hand to go into the position. MTG just works.

Also did you notice that the mode hand of MTG sprinted to its position very fast? I must give the speed champion to MTG.
 

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Re: Heavyweight Matchup: MTG-S1000D vs. GW-A1100 Speed Test

That was a really interesting video. To me MTG beat the Aviator. Hands down :-d By the way, are the buttons on the MTG that much better or you weren't in a comfortable situation for pushing the buttons on the GW-1100?
 

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Re: Heavyweight Matchup: MTG-S1000D vs. GW-A1100 Speed Test

That was a really interesting video. To me MTG beat the Aviator. Hands down :-d By the way, are the buttons on the MTG that much better or you weren't in a comfortable situation for pushing the buttons on the GW-1100?
Thanks. The buttons of both watches are fine. It was me that could not press the GWA buttons easily on that Lego stand and with my left hand.
The aviator may operate slower but it wins in some area. Like switching the HT and WT. It also can be used in low light with the lume hands. And the compass. I wish MTG uses the main hands for the stopwatch, timer, alarm functions. Or add a light and it will be perfect.
 

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Re: Heavyweight Matchup: MTG-S1000D vs. GW-A1100 Speed Test

Yes, GW-A1100 definitely needs illumination. I can hardly read the time at night where there's no light. The mode button on the GW-A1100 is likely more difficult to press, and the fact that the MTG-S has different dials and hands for different functions gives it a bit of an advantage, while the GW-A1100 relies on the same hands for home time, world time, stop watch, timer, alarm & compass, thus IMHO it's not a fair comparison for "speed", but instead a very good comparison for "functions/features".
 

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Re: Heavyweight Matchup: MTG-S1000D vs. GW-A1100 Speed Test

It's a very informative comparison, but one must always bear in mind that the GW-A1100 has to move the big, long, lumed (lume adds weight, trust me) hands, while the MT-G only moves small, short, non-lumed hands...

So naturally, the MT-G is quicker (less weight and less momentum), but the Aviator is easier on the eyes as far as actual use goes, I'd dare say ;-)
 

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Re: Heavyweight Matchup: MTG-S1000D vs. GW-A1100 Speed Test

Alright. Here we go to the next test which is the lume comparison. My setup is shown in the pictures. I want to compare MTG-S1000D with GWA1100/1000 aviators, so they are in front row. The rest of are there just for reference.

Front row, left to right, GW-A1100-1A3, MTG-S1000D, GW-A1000A-1A (on FC2 bezel/bracelet).
Second row, Revman MRG-1200T, Citizen Nighthawk, GW-3000BD, GA-1000-1A1 (on ZULU).

Later the during the test, I had to adjust the camera exposure time since the lume is too dim in the pictures with the initial camera setting. So I threw in Luminox 3081.BO to use the tritium illuminated hands as a reference. You can see that in later pictures, the Luminox hands were brighter than the earlier shots. That is because of longer camera exposure in the later test. Sorry that Luminox was not in the same positions in all pictures. I wore it during that time, then took it off and put it in next to Nighthawk for the pictures.

All watches were in the same room for the whole day. Then they were exposed to LED lamp for about 20 min. (In fact this is the 2nd test. I had them 20 min exposed to the LED lamp then did the camera shots for about 2 hours earlier. The 2nd test is a repeated with the watch position switched.) Note also that my camera used orange LED light to focus in the dark. The orange LED light was fired shortly before each shot. The LED lamp was directly in front of the GWA1100 and MTGS1000. Thus they may have more light to boost briefly than the GWA1000A on the most right and GA1000 on the far right in the back.

And here are the lume shots.

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As shown, MTG-S1000D lume hands are brighter than GWA1100-1A3. The hand lume of all watches can be seen even after 2 hr (confirmed with my eyes). But the hours ticks of other watches went down quickly. The Revman was out first but it might sit further than other in the back. Citizen Nighthawk kept shining as expected but I can say that MTG-S1000D lume is comparable to Nighthawk in my test. GW-A1100-1A3 lume is still good and readable until 7 hr later. But MTGS clearly wins here. GWA1000 seems to be fader than GWA1100 but that may be the a camera auto focus led in front of the two left watches. This is why I repeated the rest to switch GWA1100 and MTG positions (which gave the same results).
 

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Re: Heavyweight Matchup: MTG-S1000D vs. GW-A1100 Speed Test

Very interesting comparison. :-!

You should throw a Seiko Monster in there, just for grins. :-d
 

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Too bad that I don't have Seiko Monster anymore. I tested it last year and it was the brightest one as expected. Check the photo album in my profile for the previous comparison.

I had Seiko Pepsi in the first setup though. But I think Seiko was thrown in later, when I bathed the group with the LED lamp. So it wasn't the fair setup for Seiko. I removed it from the 2nd test because I wanted to zoom in to MTG and aviators. We know that Seiko always win in the lume competition, so why put the bully to spoil the party :) Anyway, here are the shots from the first try.

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Re: Heavyweight Matchup: MTG-S1000D vs. GW-A1100 Speed Test

So naturally, the MT-G is quicker (less weight and less momentum), but the Aviator is easier on the eyes as far as actual use goes, I'd dare say ;-)
Exactly. Aviator still edge MTG in the practical usage. MTG can't even tell the second time in the dark.
 

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Re: Heavyweight Matchup: MTG-S1000D vs. GW-A1100 Speed Test

Gosh Man, you are not afraid of doing some great work :)

Thumbs-Up!!!

The lume on the MT-G seems definitely better - I hope it's a sign of things to come from Casio ;-) ...but, to tell the truth, I'd be more for every analog to get the Neon Illuminator treatment of the GA-1000 than better lume...
 

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Re: Heavyweight Matchup: MTG-S1000D vs. GW-A1100 Speed Test

Well done in spending the time to do the lume comparison. Casio have improved their lume to a degree but it still falls short of Citizen and Seiko.

I just don't know why they don't implement this system of illumination on all their analogs. They can do it and then G Shocks would be the kings of lume as well.
























































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I've been thinking about the hand momentum. Casio could have made the mode hand in the subdial move faster too for the aviator. That will speed up the operation time. I guess they use different motor or different gain setting on the subdial.
 

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Re: Heavyweight Matchup: MTG-S1000D vs. GW-A1100 Speed Test

Well done in spending the time to do the lume comparison. Casio have improved their lume to a degree but it still falls short of Citizen and Seiko.

I just don't know why they don't implement this system of illumination on all their analogs. They can do it and then G Shocks would be the kings of lume as well.
The reason is probably the solar panel. To my knowledge the only solar ana-digi Casio with a fully illuminated LCD was the PRG-60.

cheers, Sedi :)
 
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