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I bought a watch hoping it was a real. Seamaster 300 is this authentic? I’ve never seen a fake like this so hoping I didn’t get burned
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What got my attention was the 14755 on the caseback instead the usual 164 and 165, also the patent pending and the cal 550 movement im hoping this was done transitional piece since no one would put that on a copy. Movement looks real dial looks ok other then what I’m hoping I didn’t miss in the pics but now I see them in person
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What jumped out at me was the condition of the bakelite bezel; it seems unreasonably good for a 60-year-old watch. There are other folks here with much more experience with this particular variant, but I'd be very suspicious. If you compare it to this one from a dealer with pretty good reviews, I think you'll see lots of differences. Look, for example, at the Omega logo.
The caseback definitely doesn't belong with the watch. British Military W10-6645-99 watches were supplied by Smiths, Hamilton, and CWC. Not, as far as I know, by Omega.
Updated to add: Apparently Omega did supply some of these. They are definitely pricey
www.bonhams.com
Updated to add: Apparently Omega did supply some of these. They are definitely pricey
Bonhams : Omega. A stainless steel military issue automatic bracelet watch Seamaster 300, Ref165.024, Movement No.24733196, Produced in May 1967
Seamaster 300, Ref:165.024, Movement No.24733196, Produced in May 1967 24-jewel Cal.552 automatic movement, black dial with luminous baton hour markers and white inner Arabic quarters, white minute divisions, polished luminous filled sword hands and arrow tipped centre seconds, brushed and...
British Army Omega watch from the 1960s fetches over £15,000 at auction
An historic Omega watch issued to members of the British Army in the 1960s sold for a full price of £15,312 (including fees) at Fellows Auctioneers yesterday.
www.fellows.co.uk
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You might want to Google "Omega 300 stubbies" to get info on possible fake dials, such as below:
www.omegaseamaster300.com
Omega Seamaster 300 Collectors Guide | Omega Passion
A comprehensive guide to the Omega Seamaster 300 watch. This website is aimed at avid colectors and will help in establishing the true heritage of the watch
www.omegaseamaster300.com
I do believe omega made these but do not know if yours is authentic. If it is then it's worth a small fortune. I think only omega could authenticate it. Have them do an extract on it.
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Vintage seamaster 300's are a minefield, there are more fakes around than genuine ones, here's a thread from 2015, same caseback markings as the one you have:
www.watchuseek.com
How much did you pay for it? I've seen Genuine "T dial" military watches selling for up to $100,000.
www.chrono24.co.uk
A typical fake seamaster 300 military big triangle from...
Don't miss this one and the beautifull story from the seller: RARE Omega Seamaster 300 T Automatic Watch 1967 | eBay
www.watchuseek.com
How much did you pay for it? I've seen Genuine "T dial" military watches selling for up to $100,000.
Omega Seamaster 300 T Dial Military Issue Mint (all original) for £90,000 for sale from a Trusted Seller on Chrono24
Omega Seamaster 300 Listing: £90,000 Omega Seamaster 300 T Dial Military Issue Mint (all original), Reference number 165.024; Steel; Automatic; Condition Very good; Year 1967; Watch with original
www.chrono24.co.uk
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I hope you've found that one diamond in the rough!! But to me it just looks wrong. Hands, compared to the dial lume. No marks on the bezel. Clean case, admittedly could have been over polished. I think any watch that was military issue may not have seen a physical war setting, but it will have seen action!! I was determined to wear a "nice" watch when I joined the Air Force, soon changed my mind after a day or so!! Bought a spare Timex from another recruit to take the punishment. Be interesting to know how much you paid?
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If you are not trolling, and have seriously bought this watch as a legitimate vintage SM300, I would suggest to start checking what are the options for a return.
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The 14755-61, as written on your case back is for a completely different model with a radium dial. I think that tells you all you need to know…
Yes, I agree that the ATIC part looks a little jumbled.
Omega would happy to tell you if contact them. However, if you have it serviced by an Omega service center I would expect to pay anywhere from $600 to $1000. Good luck!
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Just focusing on the "stubbies" mentioned in your link and looking at chrono24 listings, I can see the white hash marks that should indicate a fake on OPs watch, but not on chrono24 listings
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Omega Vintage Seamaster 300 IDF Military Ref-ST165-014 Steel... für 22 830 € kaufen von einem Trusted Seller auf Chrono24
Omega Seamaster 300 Inserat: 22 830 € Omega Vintage Seamaster 300 IDF Military Ref-ST165-014 Steel..., Referenznummer ST 165.014; Stahl; Automatik; Zustand Sehr gut; Jahr 1965; Standort: Deutschland
www.chrono24.at
Omega Seamaster 300 165.024 - Preise auf Chrono24 vergleichen
Was kostet eine Omega 165.024? Auf Chrono24 finden Sie Preise für 56 Omega 165.024. Weltweit vergleichen ✓ Traumuhr finden ✓ Sicher kaufen ✓
www.chrono24.at
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Sorry thanks guys been dealing with the return process, I paid $13k but I got it back the stubbies on the dial were the most easy way to tell. I was told it was was polished and from some father who was in the Royal Navy. Only reason I hoped it was real was because the movement. I was told that they wer issued then returned and rebuilt. I had hoped since it wasn’t marked 165.024 that it was real since no one would use the wrong markings. Did they ever have stubbies on any real dials? My only option was to get an extract of an echoes from omega but it would take over 2 weeks and more then I wanted to spend since the stubbies on the dial kinda gave it away. Thanks for all you guys help
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