[juhaszroli]

Hello!

In another topic I’ve asked before, but I’ve decided to ask you according to my pros and cons.

I own the BB58 blue, but missing the date windows and something…I miss something, we didn’t get chemical connection. 😀 I can afford just one watch, I would like a timeless, good watch. Decided to sell my BB58 and get one of these:

SMP300:

• from the beginning love the white, but for one watch collection is it versatile enough? Logical choice should be blue or black..should I make logical choice or what my heart wants? For the white I would get both, bracelet and rubber with deployant. White is “more in your face”, blue not. So in this case the color is also a hard choice.
• open caseback, etc. Only NEGATIVE is the bracelet and clasp, as I’ve read.

Tudor Panda:
-like the vintage looking

• looks cool, but I will never ever use the chrono functions
• aluminium bezel (for vintage looking I know)
• a little waiting time…

-when the service comes, have to send it to Switzerland, and in my City Omega has a local service center. (5-7 years plan)

I know I should not make my choice about the movements, both are very good.

I need a timeless, good watch for every occasion in my life, work, holiday, weekends…and can afford just one of them.

Which one would you get, and how should I make my decision?

Sorry for my english!

Thank you!

 

[SennaGTS]

I think your english is quite good

 

[slorollin]

Omega in whatever color you talk yourself into. It'll work. They all look great. Consider the grey too.

P.S. Your English is fine. However, your photographic skills appear to be lacking.

 

[juhaszroli]

Omega in whatever color you talk yourself into. It'll work. They all look great. Consider the grey too.

What do you think about the bracelet? Is it really “bad” for this price?

 

[The Dark Knight]

Seems like this will be your only (or main) watch? In that case the Omega wins by a mile imo. It wears much smaller and more comfortable. The bracelet has an on the fly microadjust, something the Tudor lacks. I would say the Omega's bracelet overall lacks some refinement, but we are comparing this to the Tudor bracelet, which isn't that great either. And if you get the OEM rubber, it's one of the best I've ever tried.

Also, if you like the white go with the white. It's plenty versatile.

 

[JustWatchMe925]

The BB Chrono is one of my favourite designs at the moment, but between the two options I would take the SMP300 for many of the reasons already stated. Ceramic bezel will be harder wearing, the movement is virtually immune to magnetism and where the BB Chrono is a vintage inspired design, the SMP is modern yet timeless. Also the newer models have on the fly adjustment built into the clasp which is excellent, something the Tudor lacks.

 

[juhaszroli]

Seems like this will be your only (or main) watch? In that case the Omega wins by a mile imo. It wears much smaller and more comfortable. The bracelet has an on the fly microadjust, something the Tudor lacks. I would say the Omega's bracelet overall lacks some refinement, but we are comparing this to the Tudor bracelet, which isn't that great either. And if you get the OEM rubber, it's one of the best I've ever tried.

Also, if you like the white go with the white. It's plenty versatile.

Thank you! Yes, this will be my only watch.
So Omega’s bracelet is better?
Do you think rubber with deployant, right?

 

[juhaszroli]

The BB Chrono is one of my favourite designs at the moment, but between the two options I would take the SMP300 for many of the reasons already stated. Ceramic bezel will be harder wearing, the movement is virtually immune to magnetism and where the BB Chrono is a vintage inspired design, the SMP is modern yet timeless. Also the newer models have on the fly adjustment built into the clasp which is excellent, something the Tudor lacks.

Thank you! Still problem the color. I’ve read many person got bored with the white dial and sold it to get blue or black. Blue and black have deeper waves on the dial, snd these are more dynamic in light.

 

[JustWatchMe925]

Thank you! Still problem the color. I’ve read many person got bored with the white dial and sold it to get blue or black. Blue and black have deeper waves on the dial, snd these are more dynamic in light.

Definitely the blue for me...my brother has a black SMP, which is nice and obviously very versatile. But for me the SMP always has and always will look best in blue!

 

[slorollin]

What do you think about the bracelet? Is it really “bad” for this price?

No. Not at all. Omega doesn't do anything "really bad". Some really picky folks are also really loud.

 

[Bucks]

The SMP in blue is the classic Seamaster imho. The Tudor chrono is gorgeous. The Tudor was a watch I considered when I bought my smp but went with the blue smp because of it's adjustable clasp, see-through case back, anti magnetic movement and it's superior finishing. I know you said you wouldn't use the chrono but I like a chrono with a 12 hr totalizer. I bought mine on the bracelet then ordered the oem rubber strap.

 

[juhaszroli]

The SMP in blue is the classic Seamaster imho. The Tudor chrono is gorgeous. The Tudor was a watch I considered when I bought my smp but went with the blue smp because of it's adjustable clasp, see-through case back, anti magnetic movement and it's superior finishing. I know you said you wouldn't use the chrono but I like a chrono with a 12 hr totalizer. I bought mine on the bracelet then ordered the oem rubber strap. View attachment 17224647 View attachment 17224648

Thank you! But the Panda looks so so good…smp too. Love the snowflake hands, but skeletonized also.

 

[thx67]

Very tough call indeed. Owned both.

For me, the overall look of the Tudor is better than the Omega. For the money nothing comes close to it. The detail on the dial and bezel give a fantastic vintage vibe the the fresh dial makes it a great summer watch. No criticism of the bracelet either. We're all obsessed with adjustable clasps but this has the old fashioned pin adjustment in the clasp which worked well for every brand until a few years ago. It's not hardship to take 3 minutes to get a perfect fit. Sure, I would like an adjustable clasp but it's not a deal breaker. The ONLY negative of this watch is the legibility. I wear glasses and really struggled with it certain situations. Ultimately, I had to let it go for this reason alone. I was gutted to say goodbye to it in all honesty.

The SMP is a funny watch. Always loved seamasters and own a couple of older models. The ceramic dials are stunning and they really pop and change colours in differing light. A thing of beauty. The deal breaker for me was the bracelet. I completely understand why they did it but they didnt modernise it enough. They tried to keep the heritage look of the bond watches and waves but the bracelet looks like it's in limbo ie it's not as modern as the cutting edge dial. I really hated it. No taper either. For me it just didnt work so it ended up on rubber which is fantastic by the way. BUT I like bracelet watches. I tried and tried to live with it but it had to go in the end. I think the overall shine of the watch got a bit tiring as well? Legibility wasnt great either due to the skeleton hands but this may not be an issue for you.

Out of the 2 watches, the Tudor was more accurate FWIW but they both performed very well. You cant go wrong with either though. If I may add to the stress. Try on the 300m heritage seamaster. Forget web photos, get it on the wrist. For me, the 300m wears much better than the SMP.

If youre going for the SMP, good luck choosing a dial colour. I really struggled with all combos. Blue on bracelet only, black if youre going to wear both, White on rubber only. The steel tends to wash out the impact of that lovely dial. Best of luck

 

[Jack1775]

SMP in any color way that you like will make a great daily wearer, or one watch collection.

Good luck with your decision.

 

[juhaszroli]

Very tough call indeed. Owned both. View attachment 17224822
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For me, the overall look of the Tudor is better than the Omega. For the money nothing comes close to it. The detail on the dial and bezel give a fantastic vintage vibe the the fresh dial makes it a great summer watch. No criticism of the bracelet either. We're all obsessed with adjustable clasps but this has the old fashioned pin adjustment in the clasp which worked well for every brand until a few years ago. It's not hardship to take 3 minutes to get a perfect fit. Sure, I would like an adjustable clasp but it's not a deal breaker. The ONLY negative of this watch is the legibility. I wear glasses and really struggled with it certain situations. Ultimately, I had to let it go for this reason alone. I was gutted to say goodbye to it in all honesty.

The SMP is a funny watch. Always loved seamasters and own a couple of older models. The ceramic dials are stunning and they really pop and change colours in differing light. A thing of beauty. The deal breaker for me was the bracelet. I completely understand why they did it but they didnt modernise it enough. They tried to keep the heritage look of the bond watches and waves but the bracelet looks like it's in limbo ie it's not as modern as the cutting edge dial. I really hated it. No taper either. For me it just didnt work so it ended up on rubber which is fantastic by the way. BUT I like bracelet watches. I tried and tried to live with it but it had to go in the end. I think the overall shine of the watch got a bit tiring as well? Legibility wasnt great either due to the skeleton hands but this may not be an issue for you.

Out of the 2 watches, the Tudor was more accurate FWIW but they both performed very well. You cant go wrong with either though. If I may add to the stress. Try on the 300m heritage seamaster. Forget web photos, get it on the wrist. For me, the 300m wears much better than the SMP.

If youre going for the SMP, good luck choosing a dial colour. I really struggled with all combos. Blue on bracelet only, black if youre going to wear both, White on rubber only. The steel tends to wash out the impact of that lovely dial. Best of luck

If you have to choose only one, which one would you keep? SMP300 on paper is better. But Panda has something I can’t write with words. Like chrono look, but don’t need the function of it. And which one is more timeless?

According to your experiences, which one would you keep as a daily, everyday everywhere watch? From Panda only miss the ceramic bezel and open caseback

Seamaster 300 doesn’t have a date window, but thank you!
And what about long-term services? Should it be important? Tudor only make this in Switzerland, it takes more time and maybe more $$$, and in my city Omega has local service.

Could you please take a picture next to each other? Thank you!

 

[juhaszroli]

Love my BB58…but the date.

 

[Summydad1]

Based on your criteria and explanation in your original post, I say SMP all the way. The Tudor would be a great complimentary piece to the Omega for sure. You said you wouldn’t use the chronograph feature ever so that would be enough for me. I also recommend the blue. There is something about that SMP blue color that is a classic. If I was you I would get it on the bracelet and buy a nice aftermarket strap. I would probably pass on the Omega OEM strap due to price. I have always had good luck with Artem. Very durable for an everyday watch. Good luck with your choice.

 

[thx67]

If you have to choose only one, which one would you keep? SMP300 on paper is better. But Panda has something I can’t write with words. Like chrono look, but don’t need the function of it. And which one is more timeless?

According to your experiences, which one would you keep as a daily, everyday everywhere watch? From Panda only miss the ceramic bezel and open caseback

Seamaster 300 doesn’t have a date window, but thank you!
And what about long-term services? Should it be important? Tudor only make this in Switzerland, it takes more time and maybe more $$$, and in my city Omega has local service.

Out of the 2 I think I would go for the Chrono.

I cant see why the Omega is better on paper. Power reserve on the Tudor is 70 hours. Omega is 60. Accuracy is the same or maybe a little better in my case. I guess the ceramic bezel would be a plus in one way but I would rather replace an aluminium bezel than a ceramic one. Ceramic bezels are another solution to a problem no one had in the first place. Yes theyre harder to scratch but theyre attached to a steel watch that is going to pick up scratches anyway. In all my years of watch owning ive never damaged a bezel to the point it needed immediate replacement. Stick it in for a service and they'll give you the replacement option of around £80. I like the character of aluminium bezels anyway. In 20 years the SMP will look exactly like it does now

Glass casebooks may look nice but in the summer months you cant beat a steel caseback. Ideally a heavily embossed/engraved one like the earlier seamaster models.

The service centre location may be a problem for you but ive owned a Tudor Pelagos for over 5 years and its been well used over that time and its still deadly accurate. Given the savings youre going to make buying the Tudor, you can fly to Rolex/Tudor HQ and deliver the watch yourself.

 

[LP49]

I have both. Great pieces. Luckily I didn't have to choose. That would be quite difficult, as you have articulated.

 

[tboyson]

I'd go SMP all day, and preferably the blue dial. Owned it. Fantastic watch and great dial.