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Hello,
I am looking for an automatic swiss watch in range of 1000-1500$, i prefer the 45mm+ case watches.
I comparing between Victorinox alpnach mechanical 241528 and a couple of Oris Diver watches (e.g Oris Titan Divers Small Second Date Automatic Watch 643-7638-7454RS)
The Chronograph is not really important, i am really interested in the best quality and better movement.
Please help me to choose my first automatic watch and any other suggestion of course will be welcomed.
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I'd rate Oris higher than VSA overall so I'll go with Oris on this one especially since you said chronograph isnt that important. Its essential to remember than the VSA is housing a pricier more complex movement than the Oris at a similar price point. That being said, both use very reliable trusted movements (ETA VJ775x on the VSA and SW200's on the Oris) that will do just fine. Oris just has a slight edge in overall quality of construction and reputation.
 

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I have the first incarnation of the Alpnach auto chrono and can tell you that it's a very well-made watch, especially at the gray market going price. The bracelet in particular surprised me with the quality for the price; precise construction, good finishing, little rattle, push button clasp, and end links that fit more snugly to the case than a typical Omega bracelet. The applied numbers, domed sapphire crystal with AR on the underside, and secure bezel action are also nice touches. I believe this particular model is a step up or three from the more common Victorinox's. Also, the 7750 movement is usually seen in much more expensive watches and is a proven workhorse. I'm not sure about the SW200; it's a clone of a well-respected movement but I'm not sure how good of a job they did copying it.
 

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Thanks Guys for you fast and helpful replies.
How about the look and feel?, from your opinion which watch will be stylish and look better in the hand?
And personally which from this two brands you will prefer to wear ?
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The Victorinox has a more 'complex' movement only because it's a chrono, if it wasn't, it would most likely have the ETA2824 which is absolutely the same as SW200 . I like the Alpnach and think it's the highest grade of victorinox watch, but that level of fit and finish is just something normal for an Oris, I've tried that TT small seconds in store and it is fantastic, does not wear as big as a 47mm watch, and very very solid overall feel. The Oris will also hold its value better should you decide to sell it, Victorinoxes usually sell for quite less than their purchase price.
 

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The Victorinox's also sell new for quite a bit less than their retail, which accounts for how much lower the resale value is compared to retail. To me the Alpnach is easily the better value between the two at gray market prices. It should be available for far less than the OP's budget; I got mine new with the strap plus the bracelet for a little over $500. That's not much more than the price of the movement alone, which is one of the better movements out there. Automatic chronographs aren't cheap, and the 7750 is the benchmark for chronos today. The SW200 on the other hand is just a copy of the ETA 2824. And it's remarkable that the case of the watch isn't just thrown together to house the nice movement, but instead is quite nice in its own right. If you can't find one significantly lower than $1000 I could see picking the Oris, but otherwise the Alpnach offers a lot more watch for the money.
 

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I too would go for the Oris and not just because I'm an Oris Fan. I've not seen the Victorinox but I would imagine that as it is a steel watch containing the 7750 it will be fairly hefty. The Oris, on the other hand, as the name suggests is titanium and has the ETA 2836-2 movement in it so will be much lighter. I have a couple of titanium Oris watches (if you saw how I was built you would understand why I'm such a fan of Ti) and they are very comfortable to wear.
 

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Both are good options, but I too think the Oris will be a bit higher in quality and certainly in resale value if that is of any importance to you.

Their dive watches are solid tanks built to run a long time.
 

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If a chrono is not important, and you're looking at dive watches, take a look at the Victorinox Dive Master 500. Excellent fit and finish, awesome dial, and houses a 2892, a step up from the 2824 mentioned.

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Hello,
I am looking for an automatic swiss watch in range of 1000-1500$, i prefer the 45mm+ case watches.
I comparing between Victorinox alpnach mechanical 241528 and a couple of Oris Diver watches (e.g Oris Titan Divers Small Second Date Automatic Watch 643-7638-7454RS)
The Chronograph is not really important, i am really interested in the best quality and better movement.
Please help me to choose my first automatic watch and any other suggestion of course will be welcomed.
Thanks
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I would probably choose an Oris but if you're talking about the VSA alpnach black ice edition than my decision might be a little tougher. I'd probably still choose an Oris but I really like the alpnach black ice.
 

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Thanks Guys for all your nice replies, till now i don't know what to choose from both most reply go to Oris and in last few days i am digging the internet searching Oris models specially "Oris ProDiver Date 49mm" amazing size, amazing look and amazing built.
Actually i am looking for a slightly big watch i am not sure if the VSA Alpanch even its 44mm will look big as the Oris ProDiver Date 49mm or not?
Some said on a review that Oris ProDiver is not look like 49mm actually it's 46mm?!!
Still need more advise and suggestions will be welcomed.
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Thanks Guys for all your nice replies, till now i don't know what to choose from both most reply go to Oris and in last few days i am digging the internet searching Oris models specially "Oris ProDiver Date 49mm" amazing size, amazing look and amazing built.
Actually i am looking for a slightly big watch i am not sure if the VSA Alpanch even its 44mm will look big as the Oris ProDiver Date 49mm or not?
Some said on a review that Oris ProDiver is not look like 49mm actually it's 46mm?!!
Still need more advise and suggestions will be welcomed.
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Here's a pic of the VSA alpnach black ice edition.

You're right about the VSA being smaller at 44mm but it is by no means a small watch and it has a build quality that I would say is equal to the quality of any Oris I've held. You're also correct about the Oris measurements being deceiving. They definitely wear smaller than the numbers suggest where as the VSA wears more like a 45mm watch.

I just wanted to add that the VSA alpnach black ice edition is the only VSA that I would ever consider over any Oris watch. Good luck with you're decision. :)
 

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I have an VSA dive master Mecha , and an Oris , its not a diver it's the Frank Sinatra , but I can attest to the finish and feel of the ORIS , it just feels and looks and gives you feeling that you have a very very nice brand and product !


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I have the 49mm ProDiver Date and it's probably the nicest Oris I own. The watch does wear more like a 46mm piece because of the fairly curved lugs and the rubber bezel surround on it.
 

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I have the 49mm ProDiver Date and it's probably the nicest Oris I own. The watch does wear more like a 46mm piece because of the fairly curved lugs and the rubber bezel surround on it.
There is two models of this watch:
01 733 7646 7154-07 4 26 04TEB
01 733 7682 7154-07 4 26 34TEB
what is the difference between this two models?
the last one is 200$ more
Do you think this watch is value for the $?
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There is two models of this watch:
01 733 7646 7154-07 4 26 04TEB
01 733 7682 7154-07 4 26 34TEB
what is the difference between this two models?
the last one is 200$ more
Do you think this watch is value for the $?
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Do Ducks quack? Of course either watch is good VFM. The latter watch (34TEB) is the newer model and there are a couple of tiny differences from the older 04TEB model. The newer model has a slightly narrower bezel (microscope time) but the main difference is that the newer one has the tips of the hour marker 'fangs' cut off. I happen to like the older model with the fangs and wouldn't pay $200 more for the newer design watch.
 
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