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I aquired this beat up Roamer...the hairspring is all good etc..chances are it will run. Can anyone give a link to what stem & crown I need please, I have no idea about the sizes etc it confuses me...id preferably like a cheap one off fleabay if anyone can direct me. Thanks.
 

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Help with stem & crown for Roamer mst 364 please

No surprise with fixed lugs and according to trim, that movement finish stopped during the war period.

Have you looked on eBay? There is at least one winding stem on there for a 364. It’s also used in other calibres but make sure you get the long one and not the split stem.

Or you can just go to Cousins where you can find the crown too as well as being probably cheaper.
 

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Re: Help with stem & crown for Roamer mst 364 please

No surprise with fixed lugs and according to trim, that movement finish stopped during the war period.

Have you looked on eBay? There is at least one winding stem on there for a 364. It’s also used in other calibres but make sure you get the long one and not the split stem.

Or you can just go to Cousins where you can find the crown too as well as being probably cheaper.
ranfft says this is 1950's watch? okay thanks for the long stem input
 

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ranfft says this is 1950's watch? okay thanks for the long stem input
I’m sure he is entitled to his opinion. You should make up your own mind.
 

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Re: Help with stem & crown for Roamer mst 364 please

I purchased it thinking it was military :) .... but did not see the movement :)
Can’t imagine why you thought that. But the movement calibre did see military use. If you check my site you will see the one 364 I have listed in a Luftwaffe issue case.
 

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Re: Help with stem & crown for Roamer mst 364 please

Can’t imagine why you thought that. But the movement calibre did see military use. If you check my site you will see the one 364 I have listed in a Luftwaffe issue case.
Just the patina and style...thought it may have been...but I dont mind...I know military are stamped with numbers etc & usually black dial....I dont know your site.
 

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It should be in my signature but I haven’t checked in a long time as I don’t view signatures. It’s also buried in one of the stickies above that list specialist sites. Or you can do a search for mirius.co.uk
 

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It should be in my signature but I haven’t checked in a long time as I don’t view signatures. It’s also buried in one of the stickies above that list specialist sites. Or you can do a search for mirius.co.uk
okay thanks...will take a look shortly.
 

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Re: Help with stem & crown for Roamer mst 364 please

Hi marcc79,
The 364 was used in Roamer`s military watches..check out Trim`s excellent Roamer site for info:
Military Roamers | Vintage Roamer Blog
You may be able to source a stem from Cousins U.K.as Mirius has previously suggested.
Trim`s website has loads of helpful technical PDF`s on the Roamer part numbers etc. which might help.
The crown style you will need will be different from those on his miltary Roamer`s blog page though as those have the waterproof case with a split stem.
Your watch is more likely to have had a much slimmer flatter style crown similar to none waterproof cased examples from the period featured in the Gallery section of Trim`s site.
I have quite a few Roamer`s from the early/mid `40`s with this style of crown
replaced crystal and service by Melvin Aug 2018.jpg IMG_20170417_120110180.jpg

Early MST 372 and MST 360
If the balance on your watch is good have you considered looking out for another better overall condition 364 and using yours a donor?
Sometimes good condition ones pop up cheaply as the balance can more easily get damaged on them due to lack of shock protection and balances can be more difficult to source- and replacing a balance staff extra expense.
 

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According to Ranfft, the MST Cal. 364 requires a winding stem W598 (Flume catalogue parts number). If you search for that in his database, several other MST movements have the same winding stem. That might give you a few more options in getting the part you require.

Hartmut Richter
 

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Re: Help with stem & crown for Roamer mst 364 please

Hi marcc79,
The 364 was used in Roamer`s military watches..check out Trim`s excellent Roamer site for info:
Military Roamers | Vintage Roamer Blog
You may be able to source a stem from Cousins U.K.as Mirius has previously suggested.
Trim`s website has loads of helpful technical PDF`s on the Roamer part numbers etc. which might help.
The crown style you will need will be different from those on his miltary Roamer`s blog page though as those have the waterproof case with a split stem.
Your watch is more likely to have had a much slimmer flatter style crown similar to none waterproof cased examples from the period featured in the Gallery section of Trim`s site.
I have quite a few Roamer`s from the early/mid `40`s with this style of crown
View attachment 14202041 View attachment 14202047

Early MST 372 and MST 360
If the balance on your watch is good have you considered looking out for another better overall condition 364 and using yours a donor?
Sometimes good condition ones pop up cheaply as the balance can more easily get damaged on them due to lack of shock protection and balances can be more difficult to source- and replacing a balance staff extra expense.
Balance is all good...springs back and forth nicely :) ... I will have to look at options because Roamer is one of my favourite brands and it would be a shame to let this go for the sake of a stem & crown....I will probably have to let it go though to a new owner as im not a very good watch repairer :( ... thank you for your input :)
 

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According to Ranfft, the MST Cal. 364 requires a winding stem W598 (Flume catalogue parts number). If you search for that in his database, several other MST movements have the same winding stem. That might give you a few more options in getting the part you require.

Hartmut Richter
Thank you :)
 
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